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JinchuuGundam85



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:04 am Reply with quote
If Yoshiyuki Tomino changes the ending of Zeta with the movie compilation that he is making, could this open the door to a new Universal Centuary? What I mean is if Zeta is changed could that mean that ZZ (Double Zeta) and everything else after Zeta be rendered as if they didn't happen. I think it does. I would love to see possibly a "good" ZZ and maybe some series after that and maybe Char's Counterattack could be fully realized and changed into Beltorchika's Children which in my opinion should have been. Who knows maybe F91 could be the series it was supposed to be instead of the first thirteen episodes of a proposed 52 episode series.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:18 am Reply with quote
I seriously doubt they'd go back and remake every post-Zeta anime just to conform to a compilation movie's changes. Too tedious to make two or three 50+ episode series based on a slightly different version of another.

Really, aside from maybe animating some of the more majour manga incarnations or expanding on some of the more stunted concepts (Crossbone, specifically), UC's pretty much done. I honestly can't see it going beyond Victory & G-Saviour, and it seems they have enough trouble keeping consistent continuity in the side stories to really bother (as much as I actually liked 0080, 0083, & 08th, they did pretty much screw up royally in keeping within the proper setting).
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JinchuuGundam85



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:22 am Reply with quote
Well I guess only time can tell.
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Fenrir



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:26 am Reply with quote
Well G-savior is not UC. Tomino disavowed that peice of crap. I would honestly love to see Tomino do another UC series. I would want them to expand on the whole F-91 concept which I think could be done. They could also do something after Victory However it would have to be something very different. If Tomino wanted to return to U.C it would be interesting to see it set far in the future and perhaps move into a sort of Macross setting by having humans expand beyond there own solar system. But I doubt it. U.C needs something really creative to be revived and I doubt it would happen. Also Tomino is not gonna create a compilation movie that messes up his established timeline.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:03 am Reply with quote
I'd still like to see Tomino's Gaia Gear manga animated. The whole concept of a Char clone (actual clone of Char Aznable) leading a rebel army against an autocratic Federation police force in the 3rd century of the U.C. timeline sounds absolutely awesome.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:56 am Reply with quote
I think the Zeta movies while re-working Zeta for better or worse will be it.

With most of focus on Gundam Seed in Japan and it's upcoming sequel Gundam Seed Destiny, It's more probable the the next thing you see involving the UC will be another sidestory (0080, 0083, 08th MS Team)
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Pandemonium



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:13 am Reply with quote
Doubt they'll do a sidestory for UC. I just can't imagine it with Gundam X (continuing or marketing dvds) and Gundam SEED Destiny on the way. There is a better chance of Gundam SEED MSV Astray series off of the OVA, and then another OVA and series for SEED Destiny MSV Astray.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:58 pm Reply with quote
Really I don't think any great UC will be made again, mainly because Tomino probably won't do anymore. I suggest just checking out Tomino's other shows which are just as great or even better. Complain untill more of those get licensed, because barely any of his catalogue has been brought to the US. Its a real shame.

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ParaParaJMo



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:31 pm Reply with quote
Well, I'm be looking forward to seeeing Z Gundam next year when I go to Japan. But I would love to see Formula 91 in series form
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JinchuuGundam85



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:33 pm Reply with quote
I wonder when the Zeta movies are done if they would eventually come to the US.
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Joe Mello



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:38 pm Reply with quote
After watching a few eps of Gundam SEED, you would think that it was Universal Century, evil Haros and all.
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zaphdash



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:02 pm Reply with quote
The changes at the end of Zeta will not be all that drastic. Tomino has already said that people who died will remain dead and the major events are going to stay intact. spoiler[The movies supposedly will have a happier ending than the TV series did, but this will presumably just mean that Kamille's mind won't get fried. Kamille alone really isn't important enough to alter the entire history of the Universal Century, so...]

UC TV shows are pretty much dead. Every possible conflict that could arise in the UC world has pretty much been explored. Because of the continuing popularity of the timeline, there will still be plenty of manga sidestories and whatnot out there, but I would be extremely surprised if we ever see another full-length TV series.

By the way, a couple notes to point out...first of all, G-Saviour has, in fact, been stricken from the UC timeline. Now it's considered "alternate" UC. Since Gaia Gear suffered the same fate to make room for G-Saviour in the first place, I think it's highly unlikely it would ever be animated either (granted, Craeyst Raygal didn't say that it might be animated, just that it would be cool if it were). As it stands now, Victory Gundam is the end of the Universal Century.

Also, Turn A spoiler... spoiler[The Macross colonization thing that Fenrir threw out there was actually touched on in Turn A, and could perhaps be more thoroughly explored in a Turn A prequel series. During the revelation of Dark History in episode 43, it's revealed that the space colonists attached engines to the colonies and left the solar system. And, if my very shaky, third-hand information is correct, in the novelizations it talks about some of the colonies returning later on and being met with hostility by the Earthlings who remained. War broke out, Keilas Guilie from Victory Gundam somehow got involved, and the Turn A and Turn X were both constructed during the conflict, which ended when the Turn A was used to rid the Earth of technology. I don't really stand by that info though, because I heard it from someone who read it off a Babelfished Japanese site, so...take it with a grain of salt. Sounds very cool if true, though.]

More than a UC series, I'd most like to see a series dealing with the events from the Turn A novelization that I described in the above spoiler tag. Failing that, I wouldn't mind a SEED sequel that, rather than containing a war or anything like that, actually deals with peaceful space exploration and follows up on the space whale. I think the SEED universe itself has potential for some cool stories. I just think SEED itself was poorly executed, and I have low expectations for Destiny.
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JinchuuGundam85



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:12 pm Reply with quote
If what you say does happen then I guess that I am just a dreamer. It's sad that the Universal Centuary was so short.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:28 pm Reply with quote
JinchuuGundam85 wrote:
If what you say does happen then I guess that I am just a dreamer. It's sad that the Universal Centuary was so short.


Short? You're kidding right?

Four full TV series spanning between forty-three & fifty-one episodes, all direct sequels of one another. Two feature films,also part of the primary timeline. Three OVA side stories. The franchise itself is nearly twenty years in the making and spans around a century of fantasy history. You call that short? I'd hate to see your idea of "long."
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JinchuuGundam85



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:42 pm Reply with quote
You probably would.
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