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Greed1914
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 11:34 am |
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I think what I find oddest about this part is what happened with Yuuki. Going into it, he was built up as a bigger bad in the story. I was disappointed that it turned out that Mariabelle was controlling him. But then, it turns out that he was faking and we're right back to him being a big bad in the story. Rimuru comments about how he is relieved Yuuki isn't an enemy anymore, only for Raphael to correct him and say that hasn't changed. It seems like Mariabelle's function in the story was to serve up some accidental W's to Rimuru and Yuuki.
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Fensox
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 3:36 pm |
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I have been waiting seasons for Veldora to get a chance to shine. A minor bit part in the play dungeon was a tease. Heck they don’t even let him have his manga comic relief act any longer.
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Eilavel
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2026 4:55 pm |
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| Greed1914 wrote: | | Rimuru comments about how he is relieved Yuuki isn't an enemy anymore, only for Raphael to correct him and say that hasn't changed. It seems like Mariabelle's function in the story was to serve up some accidental W's to Rimuru and Yuuki. |
I actually kind of liked the anti-climax element of the arc; Mariabelle did not make sense as a peer opponent to Rimuru so the way it played out worked for me. OTOH Raphael just blabbing the Yuuki is the real enemy- now that was an anticlimax in terms of Rimuru discovering that which disappointed me.
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Terraziel
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2026 4:11 pm |
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No choice but to agree with that Mariabell was a total damp squib of an antagonist.
I think it could have worked if they had played her off as an actual joke, rather than pretending she was a threat, put more of the emphasis on how she was basically a big fish in a small pond, and have her just be so beneath Rimuru's notice that he doesn't notice that he has won.
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Antipathy
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2026 2:49 am |
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I guess none of you have read the LNs. Or if you have you, and you are keeping things silent? Sorry Richard if you thought Maribell was supposed to be a threat, but I guess you thought that a 10 year old was stronger than a Hero of humanity was weaker than her. Even Luminus said she fought on par with Granevill, last season and said she was surprised he was dead. Which we all know from last season that he wasn't. Rich you are confusing the setup for the payoff. This season wasn't about Maribel, it was showing that Yuuki is still a threat and that the person behind Maribel, who she also couldn't control Granville, is the real theat. Richard / Key / Anyone did any of you really think a 10 year old with no uti skills (nor knowledge of them) could beat someone with 4 Ulti's? I will risk a ban to just ask are you that [expletive] stupid or what?
| Greed1914 wrote: | | I think what I find oddest about this part is what happened with Yuuki. Going into it, he was built up as a bigger bad in the story. I was disappointed that it turned out that Mariabelle was controlling him. But then, it turns out that he was faking and we're right back to him being a big bad in the story. Rimuru comments about how he is relieved Yuuki isn't an enemy anymore, only for Raphael to correct him and say that hasn't changed. It seems like Mariabelle's function in the story was to serve up some accidental W's to Rimuru and Yuuki. |
Did you watch last season or do you really think that Maribel, a 10 year old, could control Granville somone that fought Luminus a 1,000 years ago or so, by her own words last season, could control him?
| Fensox wrote: | | I have been waiting seasons for Veldora to get a chance to shine. A minor bit part in the play dungeon was a tease. Heck they don’t even let him have his manga comic relief act any longer. |
Your into at least season 5 teritory. Once you start hearing the name Velgrynd you will know you are close.
| Eilavel wrote: | | Greed1914 wrote: | | Rimuru comments about how he is relieved Yuuki isn't an enemy anymore, only for Raphael to correct him and say that hasn't changed. It seems like Mariabelle's function in the story was to serve up some accidental W's to Rimuru and Yuuki. |
I actually kind of liked the anti-climax element of the arc; Mariabelle did not make sense as a peer opponent to Rimuru so the way it played out worked for me. OTOH Raphael just blabbing the Yuuki is the real enemy- now that was an anticlimax in terms of Rimuru discovering that which disappointed me. |
If you weren't suprised that Yukki was revealed as an Arc Villian 2 seasons ago, them I have to say "Tell me you never read the LN's, without saying so.".
| Terraziel wrote: | | No choice but to agree with that Mariabell was a total damp squib of an antagonist.
I think it could have worked if they had played her off as an actual joke, rather than pretending she was a threat, put more of the emphasis on how she was basically a big fish in a small pond, and have her just be so beneath Rimuru's notice that he doesn't notice that he has won. |
Here is a question that is sure to make you feel stupid. How was her single unique skill supposed to beat Rimuru's 4 Ulti's?
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Eilavel
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2026 7:38 am |
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| Antipathy wrote: | | Eilavel wrote: | | Greed1914 wrote: | | Rimuru comments about how he is relieved Yuuki isn't an enemy anymore, only for Raphael to correct him and say that hasn't changed. It seems like Mariabelle's function in the story was to serve up some accidental W's to Rimuru and Yuuki. |
I actually kind of liked the anti-climax element of the arc; Mariabelle did not make sense as a peer opponent to Rimuru so the way it played out worked for me. OTOH Raphael just blabbing the Yuuki is the real enemy- now that was an anticlimax in terms of Rimuru discovering that which disappointed me. |
If you weren't suprised that Yukki was revealed as an Arc Villian 2 seasons ago, them I have to say "Tell me you never read the LN's, without saying so.". |
I'm discussing the anime. I have not read the novels and have not pretended to. If you think this is some kind of commentary sin, don't discuss the anime on an anime website?
I wasn't surprised as a viewer that Yukki is the villain. I was disappointed as to how that mystery was resolved for Rimiru, via an extremely anticlimactic "but actually" from Raphael.
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Antipathy
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2026 8:36 am |
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I'm discussing the anime. I have not read the novels and have not pretended to. If you think this is some kind of commentary sin, don't discuss the anime on an anime website?
I wasn't surprised as a viewer that Yukki is the villain. I was disappointed as to how that mystery was resolved for Rimiru, via an extremely anticlimactic "but actually" from Raphael.
Sorry I was being glib since it reading that everyone thought a 10 year old girl with 1 unquie skill would be so all powerful to be 4 Ulti's. My bad seroiusly. I can get where you are coming from in regards to Yukki. But I would just say that the 2 seasons before this set all of this up. And well shit I can't say much because well I would spoil not only this current cour, but the beinging of the next 1 at least. I mean Yukki is nothing but a walking spoiler, just ask the people who read the web novel. I think they might not like how he was changed.
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Greed1914
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2026 9:32 am |
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| Antipathy wrote: | | I'm discussing the anime. I have not read the novels and have not pretended to. If you think this is some kind of commentary sin, don't discuss the anime on an anime website?
I wasn't surprised as a viewer that Yukki is the villain. I was disappointed as to how that mystery was resolved for Rimiru, via an extremely anticlimactic "but actually" from Raphael.
Sorry I was being glib since it reading that everyone thought a 10 year old girl with 1 unquie skill would be so all powerful to be 4 Ulti's. My bad seroiusly. I can get where you are coming from in regards to Yukki. But I would just say that the 2 seasons before this set all of this up. And well shit I can't say much because well I would spoil not only this current cour, but the beinging of the next 1 at least. I mean Yukki is nothing but a walking spoiler, just ask the people who read the web novel. I think they might not like how he was changed. |
But she isn't just a kid. She is a reincarnation of someone who controlled all sorts of things from the shadows on Earth. Her grandfather is supposed to be this big deal in the world, and she, by extension, is made out to be important because she is the only one he thinks is worth his time. Like the review said, she was obviously outclassed in a head-to-head contest, but seemed like she should have been a decent match in terms of machinations behind the scenes. Yet, she chose to not play to her actual strengths. Also, what she is physically seems pretty irrelevant to the way the whole series is presented. Enemies constantly get dunked on because they think Rimuru can't be as powerful as claimed since he is "just a slime" or that a nation of monsters can't be that advanced because "monsters can't do that."
And like others said, Yuuki being the villain isn't surprising. We knew that going into this season, but for some reason it then spent multiple episodes on an overall pretty limp attempt at a fake out.
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Soleni
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2026 10:54 am |
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The LN excuse is so lame. If you need to do homework to enjoy an anime, especially one that's not very complicated, then there's a problem.
Even if i did, i don't think it would make this arc better. You can math all the RPG stats and great skill vs super Skill vs Ultimate skill you want, a story needs to be interesting. If the hard rules of the fiction make the story less engaging, then the author wrote himself into a corner
Who cares that she's a child? This a fantasy world where bullshit magic happens all the time. A kid posing a serious threat wouldn't seriously break the logic
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Antipathy
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2026 3:39 pm |
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| Greed1914 wrote: | | Antipathy wrote: | | I'm discussing the anime. I have not read the novels and have not pretended to. If you think this is some kind of commentary sin, don't discuss the anime on an anime website?
I wasn't surprised as a viewer that Yukki is the villain. I was disappointed as to how that mystery was resolved for Rimiru, via an extremely anticlimactic "but actually" from Raphael.
Sorry I was being glib since it reading that everyone thought a 10 year old girl with 1 unquie skill would be so all powerful to be 4 Ulti's. My bad seroiusly. I can get where you are coming from in regards to Yukki. But I would just say that the 2 seasons before this set all of this up. And well shit I can't say much because well I would spoil not only this current cour, but the beinging of the next 1 at least. I mean Yukki is nothing but a walking spoiler, just ask the people who read the web novel. I think they might not like how he was changed. |
But she isn't just a kid. She is a reincarnation of someone who controlled all sorts of things from the shadows on Earth. Her grandfather is supposed to be this big deal in the world, and she, by extension, is made out to be important because she is the only one he thinks is worth his time. Like the review said, she was obviously outclassed in a head-to-head contest, but seemed like she should have been a decent match in terms of machinations behind the scenes. Yet, she chose to not play to her actual strengths. Also, what she is physically seems pretty irrelevant to the way the whole series is presented. Enemies constantly get dunked on because they think Rimuru can't be as powerful as claimed since he is "just a slime" or that a nation of monsters can't be that advanced because "monsters can't do that."
And like others said, Yuuki being the villain isn't surprising. We knew that going into this season, but for some reason it then spent multiple episodes on an overall pretty limp attempt at a fake out. |
Did none of you pay attention to the past 2 seasons when it is explained that Ultimate Skills are just that, Ultimate?
And yes Maribel is just a grown womans mind in a human childs body, which means she is still deveopling. You all seem to take forgranted that since Rimuru is only about 3 or 4 years old as a slime, that his growth as a monster would translate liniarly to a human girl that is young also.
Maribel is nothing but setup for Yukki and Granville. I could go into spoilers for the next 50 odd episodes left in this 5 cour season, but I won't. If you want some hints go rewatch the new OP frame by frame and read the words by each character.
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Greed1914
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2026 4:18 pm |
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| Antipathy wrote: | |
Did none of you pay attention to the past 2 seasons when it is explained that Ultimate Skills are just that, Ultimate?
And yes Maribel is just a grown womans mind in a human childs body, which means she is still deveopling. You all seem to take forgranted that since Rimuru is only about 3 or 4 years old as a slime, that his growth as a monster would translate liniarly to a human girl that is young also.
Maribel is nothing but setup for Yukki and Granville. I could go into spoilers for the next 50 odd episodes left in this 5 cour season, but I won't. If you want some hints go rewatch the new OP frame by frame and read the words by each character. |
1. Which makes her choice to have a head-to-head fight all the more ridiculous. It was impossible to win, yet she chose it anyway. Considering how Rimuru already thwarted her plots, and even took away her control over someone, it's odd that she would conclude that direct confrontation would ever be a good idea since all signs were pointing to him being too strong for her.
2. And? Isekai stories routinely have characters act much more mature than they phsyically are or do things too advanced for their age because mentally they come into the world the same age as they were. It's the same as retaining all their Earth knowledge and bringing that to their new world.
3. Which seems to be what the review is saying makes Mariabelle seem like a waste. She just builds somebody else. Yuuki was already a villain in the story, and now the only thing different is he has the Greed skill, which he has to go and level up because it was never good enough to use on Rimuru.
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2026 1:52 pm |
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If you can’t express your opinions without insulting other users, best to remain silent. Consider this a warning, Antipathy. —F
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jr240483
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2026 8:31 pm |
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| Antipathy wrote: | | I'm discussing the anime. I have not read the novels and have not pretended to. If you think this is some kind of commentary sin, don't discuss the anime on an anime website?
I wasn't surprised as a viewer that Yukki is the villain. I was disappointed as to how that mystery was resolved for Rimiru, via an extremely anticlimactic "but actually" from Raphael.
Sorry I was being glib since it reading that everyone thought a 10 year old girl with 1 unquie skill would be so all powerful to be 4 Ulti's. My bad seroiusly. I can get where you are coming from in regards to Yukki. But I would just say that the 2 seasons before this set all of this up. And well shit I can't say much because well I would spoil not only this current cour, but the beinging of the next 1 at least. I mean Yukki is nothing but a walking spoiler, just ask the people who read the web novel. I think they might not like how he was changed. |
i also read than within the MAL forums and on some japanese community forums on how much web novel yuuki is way different compared to his light novel & manga version as well as the dislike on changing him in that way!
also I believe your a bit harsh towards the reviewer. some of the journalists here do not read the source materials of the anime they are reviewing! as a result they would not know the full details of the anime adaptation regarding this arc!
that said, the main fault is the structure of the anime itself cause while it was not too long, this arc was long enough to earn its own 24 ep season if the anime had fully adapted all of the chapters from this arc. but its clear the anime production committee clearly cut out a lot of material from the LN in order for this anime cour to meet its 12 ep limit
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