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bobobobobobobo
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:37 pm Reply with quote
Does he give them a final chapter in advance or something, or does it just stop?
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.Sy



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:55 pm Reply with quote
It probably depends on the kind of death. If the manga-ka is getting old or ill, he or she would try to wrap things up quick. If it's not a natural death, I suppose the manga-ka won't get that chance. I don't know if companies have the right to continue a manga without a creator's permission, but if that is allowed, there might be another person continuing the story.
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DemonEyesLeo



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:18 pm Reply with quote
I've never heard of anything like this happening before so this is all speculation; but yeah I think it would depend on the type of death. If it's a death caused by, say, an accident or something like that, I think the series would die along with them. It's their creation and I don't think the publishers would get someone else to continue the work. But like I said this is speculation.
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HitokiriShadow



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:20 pm Reply with quote
If they just suddenly die, then the series would just end. There would probably be no real continuation, but I'm sure some doujin-ka would make an ending.

If they know they are dying, then perhaps they would wrap it up. But again, that is purely up to them. Perhaps they would just stop earlier and try to live the rest of their days in a more relaxing manner. And then it would be the same situation as if they died suddenly.


I would not expect the manga-ka to have the final chapter done in advance. It is hectic enough for them to keep up with their weekly/monthly deadlines for the current chapters. In addition, they may change things or the story may grow into something the author didn't anticipate. In addition, they would have to have the chapters leading up to the final chapter or else the final chapter would be useless. So unless the manga-ka had the entire series done before hand (which probably never happens), they would not have the final chapter prepared ahead of time.
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Kagemusha



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:30 pm Reply with quote
Tezuka supposidly was working on his deathbed shortly before passing. Never was able to finish Phoenix (I suspect the ending he had was far too complex to be completed in a short amount of time or volumes; better to leave it as it is then have a rushed ending).
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slickwataris



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:56 pm Reply with quote
In American comic strips like Hagar the Horrible, or Blondie they had an author change, I'm pretty sure before the original author passed. If a manga artist would want the series to continue after their death I'm sure they would have announced it but I think that's not the case since manga is so individualistic.
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coolerimmortal



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:13 am Reply with quote
Sometimes it's continued under the family's supervision by another mangaka, as I hear they plan to do with Trinity Blood. Other times it's just left to hang.

I suspect that if Miura dies before finishing Berserk, there will be rioting in the streets.
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Shorty22



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:43 am Reply with quote
Tokyopop's Cyborg 009 Front Page wrote:
Cyborg 009 began publication in Japan in 1963. Although it was scheduled to end in 1967, creator Ishinomori Shoutarou 'lost to the tears of the fans' and (spoiler cut) continued the series. (snip) The final issue of the manga was to be published in the year 2000, but unfortunately, series creator Ishinomori Shoutarou passed away early that year before he was able to finish the story.


Here's an example of the creator dying and leaving it to hang. I wonder if they regret not being able to finish telling their story... not necessarily pleasing their fans or anything, but more of a personal accomplishment feeling. It's kinda sad to think about.
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Monumension



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:55 am Reply with quote
Wasn't this something that almost happened with Battle Angel Alita? Apparently Yukito Kishiro got ill and wrapped up the ending in vol.9. Later he got the chance to re-work it with Last Order.

coolerimmortal wrote:
I suspect that if Miura dies before finishing Berserk, there will be rioting in the streets.

I've been thinking about this. What's worst though is that I'd be more concerned about Berserk being left unfinished rather than the fact that Miura-san died! Luckily Japan's got the world's highest life-expectancy.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:58 am Reply with quote
[Don't use that many smileys. One or two per post is alright, but not five or six per sentence. -Nagi]
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Dranxis



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:37 pm Reply with quote
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Cyborg 009 began publication in Japan in 1963. Although it was scheduled to end in 1967, creator Ishinomori Shoutarou 'lost to the tears of the fans' and (spoiler cut) continued the series. (snip) The final issue of the manga was to be published in the year 2000, but unfortunately, series creator Ishinomori Shoutarou passed away early that year before he was able to finish the story.


Yeah, I know what they're talking about here, as I've read Cyborg 009 myself. Personally, I feel that they fans should've just shut up and taken the original ending, which, though sad, was an excellent way to wrap it up. Instead they complained and Ishinomori felt obligated to spoiler[bring 009 and 002 back from the dead and stretch the series farther until his own death], rather than move on to another series or live his final days in peace. Of course, I don't know if his health had been failing at the time or whatever, but I still believe that was an immature way for the fans to react.
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Angelcake



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:13 pm Reply with quote
I think another good example would be Doraemon.

Fujiko A. Fujio, the original creator, had been regularly putting out the manga since the seventies. However, he passed away in 1998 before he could ever give the series a real ending.

To this day, no one has chosen to continue it. And from what I've heard, such a thing is almost unheard of in Japan.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:30 pm Reply with quote
There was this one series I was reading in Japan, and it got up to vol. 5 and said there would be a vol. 6, but I waited three years for no. 6 to come and to no avail, it never came out. I had suspected that maybe the author died. But I couldn't tell. To this day the new volume hasn't come out, and I got rid of the other books.
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coolerimmortal



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:25 am Reply with quote
Fortunately, Miura is only about 40 so I don't think he'll be dying any time soon...
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:28 am Reply with quote
I just hope something don't happen to Oda. Think of all the riots there would be for THAT one.
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