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blackout
Joined: 14 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:42 pm |
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The question that drives me mad!
Okay so I talked to the guy at Bestbuy who seems to know a good deal about tvs and he was explaining which is better for which. But he didn't really answer my questions...
He said for sports and dvds plasma...
but for video games he said lcd...
So where does anime fall?!?!?! Its similar to a video game but its a dvd...
So I guess the question is for anyone with the knowledge of tvs what is going to be my best bet for anime and video games!
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x_Hisoka_x
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:45 pm |
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I know nothing about tvs but I assume that if cartoons can be viewed perfectly fine on it then so can anime. You also coulda asked him
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Arcueid36
Joined: 15 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:54 pm |
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Your best bet is to go with the LCD tv, it is better for video games becasue the image will not burn onto the screen like Plasma. What i mean when the image will not burn in the LCD tv is that if you have a still image on the screen for a long time(mainy plasma and projection t.v's) the image will burn itself on to the mointer leaving it permanet.
But if your are going to watch movies and t.v plasma has a beter quality picture then LCD and big size difference, but if you are going to play video games then LCD is better becasue it will last you longer and much cheaper then a Plasma if you are strap for cash
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zaphdash
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:19 pm |
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If size isn't an issue, you're really best off going with a regular CRT television. They're the cheapest and offer the best picture of any type of monitor. The advantage of LCD or plasma is not in picture quality, but size. I have a 32 inch CRT HDTV in my living room. It's nice, it looks great...and it weighs 140 pounds. But that's not an issue for me, so it didn't matter. It cost me $700. Glancing briefly at Best Buy's website, I see 32 inch LCD monitors going for $1400, $1600, $1800, as high as $2700. I don't think they make plasma screens as small as 32 inches, but you get the point. So, assuming you don't have your heart set on mounting the TV on the wall, assuming you aren't going to have to move it around too much and you have plenty of space for it, I would advise you to ditch plasma and LCD and go with a good old tube monitor.
If you're set on a flat panel monitor, it kind of depends where your priorities lie, but if anime and TV/movies are more important to you than videogames are, then you probably want plasma. The screen burning problem that was previously mentioned probably won't even affect you unless you tend to leave movies paused for long periods of time or something. My parents have two plasma TVs and both of them look great (with no problems of screen burn). I've watched anime on both of them, and it looks pretty fantastic. That's just sort of my personal preference, though. There's something about an LCD image that really rubs me the wrong way, and I can't quite put my finger on it. Plasma, while not quite as good as CRT, seems much closer to that kind of picture quality than LCD does.
But if the guy told you LCD is better for videogames (not being much of a videogamer anymore, I don't know whether or not that's the case), and videogames are most important to you, then perhaps that's the way to go. It really depends on what you want.
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Deltakiral
Joined: 07 Oct 2004
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:24 pm |
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It exactly go with LCD because of the burnt (lack thereof)image thing. There is an another choice for L-Cos with is Liquid Crystal. Same idea as LCD but with better quality yet, 5 times as much. Yea go with LCD since it's better and cost efficent. I really enjoy my LCD HD it is sweet.....oh yea if you do get a new TV you'll probably want to have 5.1 sound. For all those anime title that do have it.
Till next time,
Delta Kiral
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Randall Miyashiro
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:36 pm |
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The problem with plasma's screenburn has been resolved via technology that alternates and shifts the pixels around static images. Older plasma models were very bad for video games since they lacked this feature. Even if you don't play video games, I would steer away from plasma since station markers and onscreen guides can eventually lead to screen burn. Most LCDs have about the same lifespan as plasmas, but do not generally exceed 50". I believe the contrast ratio on plasmas are a bit higher.
I ended up buying Sony's 60" XBR1 LCD television since it is a 1080p screen. Pioneer (all the rest of my gear is Pioneer) only makes plasma screens and none of them can display 1080p resolution. The new HD-DVD and Blu-Ray formats are native 1080 lines and will get down converted to your HDTV if it can only display 720. I believe that most sports broadcasts are in 720, hence why the salesman said a plasma is perfect for HDTV broadcast fans. I assume that beyond the screen burn factor, video game fans might want to have the higher resolution that some LCD sets offer.
Since both Blue-Ray and HD-DVD are using 1920x1080 screen resolutions I would recommend you purchasing a good LCD that can support them. Some plasma and LCD screens are not HDTVs (EDTV) and don't display a resolution much higher than an NTSC tv. Make sure you buy a tv with HDMI imputs, and preferably one that can display 1080p. For me it was a no brainer, since Pioneer lacks a 1080 screen and the Sony XBRs were the only Sonys with the above features. They also don't have the tradiional screen door problem that older rear projectors have. I am a big fan of the newer LCOS (SXRD) technology and would side with it over the DLP projectors. Last months issue of Sound and Vision had the HP DLP go up against Sony's XBR. Overall the XBR did a bit better. It's a perfect time for a new tv since the standards have been set for the next generation of DVDs.
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Keonyn
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:01 pm |
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Well, from my time working for Sony I learned a little bit about these. First off, none of them really have a significant variance in quality as long as they are HD. Many people think of CRT as non-HD and old school, that's not the case as when you think about it CRT monitors have been displaying computer graphics at resolutions greater than HD for a decade or more and most modern HD CRT's have more in common with a computer monitor than your old living room TV set.
LCD and Plasma will have a somewhat better picture quality, primarily in color depth, not in resolution. CRT's biggest drawback is their size, they are generally very large and very heavy making them an inconvenience, but they are priced right and they have an average life expectancy that doubles, triples and can even quadruple that of an LCD or Plasma.
LCD is the middle ground, they are larger than plasma as their larger models still require use of a projection system but they last longer and their images aren't prone to burning. They can also be fragile and if a pixel goes out or even worse, gets locked on, it can be very noticeable and most manufacturers require a certain percentage of bad pixels before they even consider replacing any part of the set. They are also much more expensive, though still cheaper than Plasma.
Plasma is the cream of the crop, or so the advertizements say, but the difference is really only in size and convenience and picturewise the difference is not significant. They are slim, can fit just about anywhere and don't really wiegh a whole lot though and gives you the ability to toss a TV on just about any wall, anywhere. The drawback is the price, they cost a fortune and if they break, the repair cost is usually greater than the cost of a replacement so the warranty better be good. This is especially important due to the fact that the average life expectancy of a plasma TV is only around 2 years. To me, these just aren't worth the money, if you've got the dough to spare and just have to hang a 42 inch TV on your bathroom wall though, this is your option here.
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Gauss
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:22 pm |
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Another thing to consider is that plasma TV is an electricity hog. Expect to see a significant increase in your utility bills if you watch for more than a few hours per day. LCD might be your best bet if money is a bit tight or you worry about the environment.
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Josh7289
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:54 pm |
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I'm a technology guy, but I'm too busy right now (just wandering for a bit) to explain that...
If you must choose between LCD or plasma, get plasma, especially if your main concern is watching anime and nothing else matters.
If size or price are a concern, you might want LCD. Alternatively, it might just be better to get a good old CRT TV, HD or not, if your just watching anime, since the highest resolution anime we have is 480p on DVDs, which is not nearly HD by any measure.
Finally, we have SED coming soon, but that's going to be expensive for a while...
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benbboy
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:18 pm |
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If the tv you want to purchase is more than 36 inches then go with the plasma. If it was smaller i'd suggest purchasing an LCD. Plasma's have better pictures when they get into the bigger sizes but LCD's will take over in the years to come. Try to buy a tv with a few HDMI inputs and outputs as this is the up and coming technology which will soon be the only way to play sound from Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs.
About the new formats...don't but the DVD players yet.....just wait a few years. If you want a sound system, I'm waiting for the Samsung ht-as710 to come out to accompany my samsung lnr238w LCD tv.
My recommendations....buy a LCD if less than or around 36 inches...get HDMI inputs/outputs...stick to name brands....purchase off the internet after viewing in a store...and use the site cnet.com.
-Ben
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DaZ616
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:17 pm |
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If your rich, stop comparing and just get
both of them
Put the plasma in your lounge room and the LCD in your bedroom.
And then compare which one works better with anime and compare the difference yourself
-DaZ
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greatdevourer
Joined: 13 Apr 2006
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:51 am |
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Be warned that with plasmas, you will have to replace the plasma after a few years (I think now they can last for about 5), and you have plasma leaks (although they're rare nowadays). If you can afford them, get a DLP TV (check with the teamxbox article to see if it's proper 1080p or faux-1080p). They offer brilliant picture quality, are digital all the way through, and still retain the perfect blacks of CRTs. However, just as with the plasma, stuff needs replacing after a while (the lamp)
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Sir_Brass
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:00 am |
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Go LCD. Essentially, the LCD TVs are nothing more than a massive LCD monitor. This makes it especially easy to integrate with a computer. That, and Plasma TVs don't last....plain and simple. For two years use......man I better be paying only a few hundred $$ at most for one of those.....but Plasmas cost several thousand $$ at the cheapest. LCDs, on the other hand, look just as good for alot less, and last alot longer (especially if you baby it like you would a prized computer monitor), and use up alot less energy, and save you a good deal of money (it sucks that the plasma will last only a short while, cost you way too much $$ to buy, and then have a significant upkeep cost in the form of a spiked electricity bill from the power company).
The hooking up to the computer is also a major plus, because then you can use that as your home theatre center, and can even plug it into a home theater surround system using pass-through digital coax or optical cables if your soundcard has such hookups. It essentially puts two big power consumers together, thus negating the need for one of them, and keeping power consumption RELATIVELY the same. THis will also save you money in the short and long term.
I've looked into this quite a bit, as I've been planning financially for what I want to get after I get out of college, and this was a big issue....so I've been doing my homework. And what I've found and decided upon is that even if I had the money for a plasma screen.....I wouldn't buy it....and I'd get a similarly sized LCD (not a projection LCD....so I would be size-limited....but hey, 42" is still pretty friggin' huge) TV monitor and save mucho $$. It also helps to shop not just at best buy (also check out Circuit City.....they stock some excellent TVs as well as theatre systems that Best Buy doesn't, and at competitive prices as my dad and I found out when shopping for a new 5.1 surround system this December). I also recommend checking out NewEgg's selection, they may not have as good a selection as Best Buy or Circuit City, but it's worth it to check them out anyway....don't limit your options.
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blackout
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:35 am |
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A lot of good points were made here other than the burn in point... Because I did the research on that before I even went to Best-Buy and Panasonic and Pioneer have anti-burnin technology which someone mentioned. Basically Pixels are randomly moved and scattered causing burn-in to be solved and has been proven technology. Go to Best Buy find one of these newer plasmas tvs grab a sales guy and have him pause a plasma. He will do it on those models because he isnt afraid of the burn in ...
CRT Problems... Maybe most of you can't hear it because you don't have the hearing senses I have, but CRT's annoy the crap out of me. I can hear the bulb inside of them humming especially in larger models.
Lifespan has been increased so although you are going to see a longer life with LCD of 110k - 130k hours of watching compared to Plasmas 60-80k hours now... The Warranty on both of these will save my rear-end.
Pixel outages are covered by warrantys with Plasma of 4 pixels = new tv sent... Also you can fix burn-in if you have an older plasma by displaying a gray image for an extended period of time or so I am told...
Now power hehe Power is not my problem because its not my bill to pay its included in my monthly fees...
However based on what I will be doing with this I think the end result is going to be an LCD because I don't watch sports and I dont really think most anime requires the super refresh rates that plasmas offer. The other thing is going to be that high resolution and the fact that it will easily hook into my pc...
For those of you who are DDR freaks and area familiar with it. Stepmania Step Mania on my pc with it in a 42" LCD my kind of fun!
Anyway thanks for everyones input this topic got a lot of replys and and lot of great input. Unless someone thinks that Plasma is going to provide a much better image for anime I have my doubts since its not HD and probably won't ever benefit from HD color I dont see Plasma as being my requirement...
Thanks everyone!
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