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mjgeo
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I think selenta did a good job of covering the changes in the adaptation. Why I consider them unimportant most likely because I don't think Light changed as the manga progressed. At least, not in the same way other people think he changed. And I think there was enough material in the anime to make a good judgement on Light's character (same intentions, still showed hesitation after killing the second person, still prepared to sacrifice himself to create the new world). The second reason why I would consider the changes unimportant would be because none of the story has changed. People are (at least should be) judged on their actions and intentions. And neither of these have changed for Light. Re: Manga spoiler[ An example that people complain about is the laughter of Light. He sounds more evil/crazy than people imagine from reading the manga. However, I don't see any other way of doing his laughter without it sounding really odd. In the first ep just before he meets Ryuk, he lets off a bit of an evil chuckle. The laugh is in the manga too, so what else is the director supposed to do? Make him sound like a gitty school girl instead?] But oh well, that's just me. Any more questions I'd rather respond to through PM. |
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RDespair
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This line amused me, because what got me into Death Note in the first place was an entry in a friend's blog on the manga. This is a bit of what he wrote: "Death Note really made an impression on me, since its main character, "Light", is the most spot-on, fictional depiction of the devil I've ever witnessed. The story in Death Note treads morally-ambiguous ground with its predominant focus on the protagonist/antagonist character of Light and his ideals, and this gave me a lot to think about." (The devil comment is based on an LDS theological perspective. In LDS theology, the devil was originally a high ranking angel of God who sought to overthrow God and take his glory for himself. He proposed a plan to save all mankind through the method of taking away man's free will and forcing everyone to be righteous. When his plan was rejected, he rebelled against God, was cast down and became the devil.) Seeing as how in the very first chapter of the manga, Light sets forth his plan to become a god by killing people, imposing his own standards for morality on humanity, and generally trying to control and manipulate people, I don't think it's hard at all to make a logical case that Light is an evil person from the manga. Heck, even his companion, the death god thinks he's morally lacking. Saying that Light cannot be construed as an evil person in the manga is misleading and unfair to story writer, Tsugumi Ohba. He specifically sets up the story so that Light can be viewed as either a hero or a villain depending on your personal beliefs and point of view. You can take Light's perspective and view him as a savior or take L's perspective and view Light as one of the greatest villains of all history. While I won't go so far as to say both viewpoints are equally valid (it's pretty obvious which one I think is more accurate), both viewpoints are presented to the reader for consideration. Light was meant to be controversial and saying that he's good in the manga and evil in the anime seems a radical and unjustified interpretation of the text. |
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Raven Shinobi
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I remember while reading the first few chapters how I could'nt stomach Light's ideology and actions, granted, he's trying to do what he thinks is right and willing to sacrafice his own soul for the sake of his ideals and the people he deems innocent, but the immoral methods that he's using take away the righteousness of what he's trying to accomplish.
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Last_September
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I know I'm a little late in watching the anime (just discovered Monster) but I finally watched episodes 3 and 4. The bus scene in episode 4 was great to watch. It's been so long since I've read the manga that I pretty much forgot what would happen so everything seemed new again...well, some of it.
Light's plan of retrieving the FBI agent's name was brilliant. I always wonder where the writer of manga gets her ideas from. I envy her storytelling abilities. This is in response to the last couple of posts. I hope I haven't spoiled some part of the story for anyone nor ruin the viewing experience for those who haven't read the manga. It wasn't my intention and I tried to be vague as possible with details from the manga. I still enjoy the anime despite some differences(which Selenta has mentioned) that were made. It has renewed my interest in the story. |
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darkchibi07
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Oh man episode 5! spoiler[With the incident in the bus, Light was able to manipulate Ray Penbar in order to take out all of the FBI agents that were residing in Japan including Ray himself. With the FBI backing out, the Japanese police needed to regroup so the willing officers decided to go along with L in the hotel.
Hmm, seems like Ray's fiance is going to get involved with the investigation. And something tells me, she's not a pushover.] Some of the art quality especially the far-away shots looked pretty awkward, but it wasn't too bad. Good stuff. |
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Ramadahl
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Eheh... ouch 
Well, to clarify my position somewhat, I don't think it's a bad anime at all. It has excellent production values, the storyline is gripping and moves at a good pace. And it's very different to what people are used to. The reason I'm not watching it is that... good vs. evil is boring. For me, it's as simple as that. |
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Code001
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I agree 100%. Also, anyone notice spoiler[that Kira is starting to resemble more of an actual psychopathic serial killer instead of the original "man of justice" that he wanted to be when he first received the Death Note? I'm still waiting on mistakes for either party at the moment because, again, it seems Kira and L know everything about each other....] |
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free2slap
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Oh, man this anime is a pure delight. Episode 5 is the best so far.
spoiler[Also it has become to this point where i really don't care about the main character anymore/Light. Killing off Ray was just so sad but yet clever. I can't wait to see how ray's wife is going to fit in all this. It may also become problamatic for Light too since Ray's wife knew on what specific investigation her boyfriend was.] |
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adonais
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I agree, awesome episode. The introduction of a new (presumably major) character, spoiler[Ray's fiancée], who obviously have some serious deductive assets, now spoiler[going after Light too, in addition to L. Be afraid, Light, be very afraid!] Gotta like the shinigami too, poor dude, he may be in it over his head with Light. spoiler[(love the reaction, "oh? even I didn't know it could do that.." as Light revealed his latest trick of writing in the cause of death first, and the name later!)] But you're right, Light is heading in a direction where soon no one will care about him or his righteous megalomania anymore. I hope he'll be treated to some sort of shock to the system and start considering an attitude adjustment rather soon.. EDIT: And, damn, that was a scary comment to be delivered around the dinner table: spoiler[(to his father) "If you die, I'll go after Kira" - a foreshadowing of killing his own father..?] |
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omar235
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Holy Sh*t that was insane...I can't belive how smart he is. But now light has brought forth the power ofspoiler[ a pissed of Ex-FBI agent. she's as deductive as L...though I have to say I feel bad for the FBI agent he was hoping to start a familiy...who would have thought he would run into light...too bad.
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This anime is diffently shapeing up to be a masterpieace, I just hope they don't screw this show up with a really bad ending. I will agree with adonais though if he keeps this up no one will rememeber (or care) why he's doing this in the first place...I'll care though cause he's freakin sweet. 
Edit: the perfect anime to have my 666 post.
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Stupidman007
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Actually I had the complete opposite interpretation to that comment. By saying that spoiler[he'll go after and kill Kira if his father dies], that should imply that spoiler[he's not going to kill his father since he'd have to kill himself if he killed his father]. |
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omar235
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I thougth he said that to throw his dad off from thinking he was Kira. |
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adonais
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Yeah, I'm not sure what to think of that comment. On the one hand, I'd like to believe that Light wants to keep his family safe; that's kind of normal, right? And he also needs to have his father around in order to be able to infiltrate the police and keep tabs on the group chasing him. But on the other hand, he has decided to change the world, and his father is currently on the side of those that plan to stop him. Given how he was spoiler[bumping off agents left and right in this episode, I'm not sure I can trust Light to just leave his father alone in this. He must realize that at some point a confrontation between them must come, and when that happens, Light has probably worked out a plan for what needs to happen: 1) he has to bring daddy over to his side, or 2) confess and go quietly to jail, or 3) come up with a method to take his father off the case forever without killing him, or 4) kill him. Somehow 1 and 2 don't seem so likely, and 3 will be hard, unless he takes the whole family hostage or something, which is not really a sustainable solution.] Well I'm just speculating out loud. I don't know what the deal is inside Light's head
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Stupidman007
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L did not tell anybody about suspecting that Kira had anything to do with the police force. Having followed Light for a period of time, Ray Penbar himself felt that no way can Light be Kira, and he was told by L that Kira was related to the police. Therefore, the chances of Light's father having any thoughts of him being Kira is virtually zero.
What I think is going to happen with the situation if Light's father was to find out that he was Kira is that it'll be very similar to what happened in Gungrave. In Gungrave, everyone who protected the syndicate chose their own families before syndicate. In Deathnote, I think Light's father spoiler[will not be able to kill Light, and that all of his sense of justice at that point will be trashed]. |
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Zero89
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Were you joking? (it kind of sounds like it to me...) Well anyway, spoiler[didn't light give the detective a piece of the death note and tell him to right the names of the people in his group? How could he have been sure that his father wasn't with him? Granted, his father isn't part of the FBI; but there was still a very possible chance that they could have been investigating together, and then he would have inadvertently killed his own father... hmmmm wonder what he would have done then...] |
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