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Dian Z
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Based on a survey on the app some time ago, there seems to be at least a consideration to offer a paid subscription or some way for readers to access all the chapters. I'm a latecomer for some of their titles, but they've been quite regularly uploading new titles as well so that I've become an earlycomer for some of their titles. Some titles actually have all chapters available too. So I'm thankful for what I can get for free, especially to support the authors, and hopeful there will be a way to read the currently missing in-between chapters in the future.
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That's definitely false, because I can tell you that me and a ton of other people would stop pirating if we had better access to Manga/ Anime |
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Horsefellow
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I mean, sure, in a perfect world where every series is available in every language with an fully uncensored, amazing translation and all for free there'd be no need for piracy. But that's never going to happen. There's always going to be thousands of titles that go unlicensed. I'm honestly surprised there isn't a manga equivalent of Crunchyroll yet, where you can just read a bunch of series in their entireity for free. Yeah, for those of us that keep up to date on a specific handful of series the last 4 chapters being free and available is all they technically need, but that does nothing to bring in new fans or people who want to go back and re-read older titles or chapters stuff. And that's still only if we're limiting it to the very narrow pool of popular Jump titles and not the thousands of other works out there. |
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ATastySub
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Which is why they're literally talking about the titles they've licensed. |
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SilverTalon01
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Not to sound like pirating anime is some ethical high ground worth defending because I don't think it is ethically defensible, but... Sure, piracy became easier, but I think you're ignoring other issues. One big one being price. I remember those old releases and their 3-4 episodes per disc sitting on the shelf of a best buy next to mainstream tv series that didn't cost that much more for a season. I'd also throw out there that the industry is partially to blame for not keeping up with piracy. Where was the legal equivalent of those early pirate streaming sites? No where... because the first big legal streaming site was a pirate streaming site. The fact that you can point to it being "instant" is a problem because those legal discs were not instant. The Internet was a thing, and people on it knew those episodes aired. Spoilers for them were all over. Of course many of them don't want to wait 6 months for a local disc release. You can blame them for not waiting, but I think the companies own part of the blame as well for ignoring the consumers. After all, it is now well proven that people will totally pay for that streaming instead if it is offered. |
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FilthyCasual
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LegitPancake
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When several huge manga scanlators like Jamimi's Box and a couple others stopped translating leaked Jump scans back in early 2020, MangaPlus reader numbers jumped super high. Used to the links to MangaPlus on r/manga barely got a hundred upvotes each with barely any discussion, whereas the leaked chapters posted several days earlier would get thousands of upvotes and tons of discussion. Now the opposite is true when the official Sunday releases come out. So thankfully most of the manga fandom is okay with waiting for Sunday for MangaPlus/Viz release (Friday for holidays), it's just the untranslated My Hero/Chainsaw Man leaks that come out on Wed/Thurs that I really have to make sure to avoid. So yes, pirated manga, especially for the latest chapters, does have an effect on legal clicks.
I'm surprised Brazil did so high in the numbers despite no Portuguese support. Hopefully they plan to expand their languages to include Portuguese and French in the future. |
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kgw
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Some people here is forgetting a minor detail: foreign (that's it, not-Japanese) publishers. Shueisha make a ton of money from international licensing rights. If Shueisha gives readers from other countries all their mangas, for free, forever… Who will pay them to printing them in other languages? It is widely known that Spanish publishing houses are not exactly thrilled with the idea of having their licensed mangas (that are not exactly cheap) given away.
It also says a lot that there are no French, Italian or German editions of MangaPlus -they publish a lot of manga- and that some WSJ mangas are not available in Spanish, but they are in English (or vice versa). I read the weekly chapters of my favourite series and if it calls my attention, then I'll wait for a local release. "Only" three new chapters available... legally, for free? I can live with that.
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I've heard that story before. Truth is, nobody stops pirating because there will be never the ideal solution they want: all, for free, forever, instantly. |
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gridsleep
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This popular view of spies as elegant assassins always amuses me. The most realistic spy fiction is John Le Carre's books, and there are maybe a half dozen deaths in all those thousands of pages. Spying is mainly about being dull as ditch water, trustworthy, and hard to remember while remembering and noticing everything. George Smiley never even carried a gun. Possibly a pocket knife but only for opening letters and cleaning his nails. James Bond never existed in real life. I wonder if real spies could sell, these days. Stories of spy scandals certainly do, but spies who create scandal are ones who have failed at their job. The best spies are the ones you never know existed.
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SHD
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I speak Japanese. I don't even need translation - I just want to be not region locked out of content. |
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Puniyo
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I mean, I think this is a case-by-case basis, some people it really is an accessibility issue- when there was next to no legal way to get anime here, obviously I streamed everything from some skeevy sites, but nowadays I will buy a sub to watch 1 or 2 series or literally wait a week to watch it for free on a legal streaming site if I can't afford the subscription. Only stuff I look up now are things that are definitely not getting licensed any time soon. I know a lot of people who can definitely afford it and just find some moral high horse excuse to continue pirating though. On the three chapter thing - isn't this supposed to emulate the format of the actual shounen jump magazines? except better, because you get the last few chapters still. I'd imagine it's to incentivise keeping up with the series vs binging it, so they can gauge how well the currently running series are actually being recieved.
Literally the first thing you see after scrolling down is this study contradicting itself, saying that piracy actually has a massive displacement effect on movies, and this still only addresses mainstream media - stuff that so many people are watching and so many fewer people actually know how to pirate it probably evens out. Only an anime/manga specific study can prove your point. |
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Idgal
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https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/ehcfm5/chart_detailing_the_effect_the_death_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf |
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ThatMoonGuy
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Brazil has a sizeable anime fanbase, specially for shonen manga and despite the english speaking population being around 1% (fluent speakers, varies by region), there's sort of a overlap between being an english speaker and reading manga. Besides, I imagine a lot of people read it in spanish. If they did put the manga in portuguese, I could Brazil jumping a few positions, though. |
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NeverConvex
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I can't speak for anyone else, and haven't read any anime-specific studies of the effects of piracy (though it seems neither has anyone else, judging by this thread being filled almost exclusively with speculation), but I personally stopped pirating anime (which I did quite liberally as a young person) once I started pulling down enough of an income (as an adult) to reasonably afford legal streaming services (which happily existed in abundance by the time I had something worth calling a salary). |
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Q4000
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The English (not sure about Spanish) translations are taken from Viz, that's why they can't publish all chapters in most titles. The ones not licensed by Viz (meaning they provide the translations themselves) all chapters are available. Once Viz decides to license a title, they remove the chapters (e.g SPYxFAMILY). That's what they told me anyway when I asked a year ago about the chapters.
There is an interesting title though: Monster8. Viz licensed the title, but Shueisha decided to provide their own translations, keeping all chapters available. |
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