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EP. REVIEW: Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid S

...but nothing actually happens because its not that kind of manga, and the anime adaptation just adapted it, I may be wrong but that's how I saw it.

I enjoyed first two episodes. I laughed a lot. Hmmm, I don't know if I'm numb to the fanservice but I think it's better for most to ignore it? No anime is going to be perfect but I'm glad kyoani is getting back on their feet.

kakugo complete wrote:

AnimeFlyz wrote: Why did I instantly know that that Youtube link was gonna be to a Noralities video? Yeah, I have already watched her content, and most of it is crap with bad research and extremely far reaching claims. Some of which are extremely offensive. I'm not saying she's a great analyst, I'm saying this random Tumblr user still has more observational skill than people who convinced themselves S1 wasn't full of loli sexualization.

Eh, don't trust that YouTuber. They have gotten 85% information of their videos to he wrong such as the abuse going on in Japan and saying "racism = lolis" (this hurts me as a dark skin Mexican and many black anime fans). They lack of understanding and unable to take criticism from others so their skills aren't the best.....

Sorry this is out topic for the mods. Simply had to correct those with given false information.

#LevantineA'rabiAnimeFan wrote:

...but nothing actually happens because its not that kind of manga, and the anime adaptation just adapted it, I may be wrong but that's how I saw it.

I mean, if you're talking about the manga, did you miss the parts where she was butt naked? And by that I mean the times the manga showed off her butt while she was naked.

Really, it's a matter of after that scene where Kanna pounced on Riko, and then afterwards clarified that she actually was trying to mate with Riko, any of their interactions afterwards gets tinted pink. Very pink.

*Edited a word to "mate" because it got turned into "fudge"

Some people are really taking this review as a personal attack and that just seems silly. And I say this as someone who loves Dragon Maid--and it's clear from the review that this person likes Dragon Maid too. They just don't like everything about it. It's entirely possible to criticize elements of media and still enjoy them. Even if I don't agree with everything in this review. Like I said, I love Dragon Maid but, yes, there are less than savory elements about it I could do without.

capt_bunny wrote:

Eh, don't trust that YouTuber. They have gotten 85% information of their videos to he wrong such as the abuse going on in Japan and saying "racism = lolis" (this hurts me as a dark skin Mexican and many black anime fans). They lack of understanding and unable to take criticism from others so their skills aren't the best..... Sorry this is out topic for the mods. Simply had to correct those with given false information.

I totally agree, but on a different basis for me as the main issue, she insinuates that lolis in Animes encourage child sexual abuse, I'm from Jordan and by her logic there should be zero child sexual abuse because Arabic anime dubs are so heavily censored to the point of having almost no sexual or romantic content. But unfortunately, while not common child marriage does happen here and it is incredibly sad when you hear about it, so to say that an anime like dragon maid is somehow a measurable factor in the occurrence of child sexual abuse is deeply offensive.

sorry if this doesn't count as on topic, I'm new to this website and I'm not sure what qualifies.

It's rare that I step in to comment on criticism of our articles, but sometimes these criticisms completely misunderstand the policies of ANN, and this is one of those cases.

SquadmemberRitsu wrote:

When MAPPA abuses their employees, their works are praised by your writers. When Uzumaid or some other vile show comes around you guys will just get that Theron Martin guy to give a gentle weekly analysis of the pedo characters adventures around small children. But a studio emerges from the worst massacre in post war Japanese history while still maintaining a healthy work environment, that's when you guys decide we need a reviewer that's gonna put the show in its place?

Several people have already said it, but I want to emphasize, we review each show based on the merits of the show, not the studio behind it. We've criticized shows made by studios we love, and we've praised shows by studios we don't like. I lost a personal friend in that tragedy; I would not allow my publication to unfairly disrespect them, any of the other victims, or any of the survivors. Most of us really like KyoAni and are incredibly happy to see them put out their first show since the tragedy. But we're going to treat it fairly in our reviews.

Theron wrote:

Whether Lynzee now or Zac and Jacob in the past, ANN's editors have never, ever given directives to reviewers about how episode or full reviews should be done, especially what topics should or shouldn't be focused on. That's all on the individual reviewers.

Thank you Theron. I appreciate someone who is intimately familiar with ANN's reviewer policies, but no longer has any reason to suck up to us clarifying these policies.

theblasblas wrote:

then you could at least pick a reviewer that's more representative of the target audience, especially since this is already the second season.

We always pick reviewers who will give a show a fair shake. Even if they are huge fans of the show, they must be able to point out its shortcomings. A reviewer who is going to do nothing but gush over a show isn't the kind we hire. Lynzee is reviewing Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid because she is a big fan of the first series, but still recognizes its flaws. In this way, she is the perfect reviewer for the show.

Someone who isn't able to point out this fanservice and say "Hey, this show is generally great, but you might not like this aspect of it," would be the wrong reviewer.

It's great if a reader can read that critique and say, "Oh, I get it, but that doesn't bother me at all, so I'm going to check this anime out." Despite Lynzee's comments, someone somewhere is going to read the review and say, "Hey, I like that kind of fanservice. I can't believe I missed the first season; I should check this out." There's no need for a fan to get personally offended when a reviewer criticizes an aspect of an anime that the fan either doesn't mind or actively enjoys.

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Seriously, if they're making comments like "For the mainstream audience, or anyone otherwise not interested in fanservice that involves creeping on kid characters" they're just not the right reviewer for Dragon Maid.

To be clear, Lynzee was referring to mainstream anime fans, ie: anime fans who are not "interested in fanservice that involves creeping on kid[or having the appearance of children] characters." There are a lot of people who love Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid who aren't into this particular kind of fanservice, and she was keeping them in mind in the review. She most certainly was not referring to non-anime fans.

Christopher Macdonald

I am sad seeing some people just refer to Dragon Maid as "a fanservice show" and that if you don't like fanservice you shouldn't watch it. Saying Dragon Maid is just "a fanservice show" is doing it a great disservice to the heart it has and the strength of its writing and characters.

Which chapter, I actually don't remember that, and I Kanna wasn't trying to mate, she was trying to "lick" saikawa because that's how dragons "clean" each other normally, maybe I'm misremembering.

To be clear, Lynzee was referring to mainstream anime fans, ie: anime fans who are not "interested in fanservice that involves creeping on kid[or having the appearance of children] characters." There are a lot of people who love Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid who aren't into this particular kind of fanservice, and she was keeping them in mind in the review. She most certainly was not referring to non-anime fans.

Christopher Macdonald

Then comes the multitude of excuses for why that reviewer sucks and is just wrong. In this case we've already had the quite old, "but she's not really a child, so even if she looks like a child it's ok to ogle her, sexualize her, and insert her into my own fantasies and if you find the sexualization of what looks like a young child to be off putting you're just some morally wrong a-hole trying to shove western values onto everyone", excuse show up for that part that was criticized. Another prime example of that particular reasoning was with Dance in the Vampire Bund. "They're really quite old and adults so it's ok if they look like kids". The hypocritical thing is that when the situations are reversed, and it's a male character that's actually an adult but put into a child's body, that same group will say how that male character is just a child so they don't know any better in regards to questionable conduct. Like with our old pal Rudy. Funny how that one way street works..

Redbeard 101 wrote:

Then comes the multitude of excuses for why that reviewer sucks and is just wrong. In this case we've already had the quite old, "but she's not really a child, so even if she looks like a child it's ok to ogle her, sexualize her, and insert her into my own fantasies and if you find the sexualization of what looks like a young child to be off putting you're just some morally wrong a-hole trying to shove western values onto everyone", excuse show up for that part that was criticized. Another prime example of that particular reasoning was with Dance in the Vampire Bund. "They're really quite old and adults so it's ok if they look like kids". The hypocritical thing is that when the situations are reversed, and it's a male character that's actually an adult but put into a child's body, that same group will say how that male character is just a child so they don't know any better in regards to questionable conduct. Like with our old pal Rudy. Funny how that one way street works..

I don't know why people are so obsessed with the word "ok" when it comes to what can be shown in anime in the first place.

It's anime. A cartoon. Fantasy not reality. That means everything that happens in it is morally "ok".

I really don't believe in 'immoral anime'. I only believe in 'good taste' and 'bad taste'. And something being tasteless doesn't make it "bad" or "wrong".

No matter how detached you may have convinced yourself it is the only reason you like the things you do is because of the circumstances of your own life and the reactions you’ve formed from them, same as everyone else.

Why was Lynzee even given this to review if she had such personal hangups about it?