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VOX
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I agree with you there. But the only 3d films Disney has released ALL come from Pixar studios, and Pixar only has a couple more films to do (I think 2) before they no longer have to distribute through Disney. I just think that Disney is looking at the current trend (which is the 3d films doing well) and are now saying to themselves "2d animation is obsolete" instead of "Let's try to make something with out Phill Collins/Elton John/ Sting singing the theme song." But it's obvious that Disney is all about the money so it's not like I'm surprised that they don't want to try to make something that could be risky. And, to their credit, in their current situation they can't really take any risks. That's why I hope to see some independant type of stuff rise up that won't be bound with the restrictions and risks that a bigger companies have to worry about. |
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crazydumbek
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Here's a little sequel to this story. Those laid off Disney animators have formed their own company called Legacy Animation Studios. At the bottom of the welcome page is a quote from "Uncle" Walt himself. Not much at the site right now... |
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mahoro
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Without a doubt, the major studios stateside are leading towards more computer generated (CG) based and assisted animation. The same to varying degrees of success applies throughout Asian production studios. In JP especially, more and more OVAs, tv series and movies are using CG and digital paint on a frequent basis. This really should not be a shock to anyone as it is hard to justify the considerable cost of using and storing acetate used in traditional cel animation. As the CG technology improves and becomes more cost efficient with less rendering time, industrially used programs like Maya, Lightwave, SoftImage, and Renderman, will become the norm. Also, there are more advanced CG options available now to animators and directors than in previous years. It is helpful to examine the use of CG in tv, OVAs series, and movies. Compositing was used in the ’96 Escaflowne tv series (two example, the earth dragon and the stealth feature on Zaibach’s guymelfs), but only to varying degrees of success. Since then, major developments continue to show a growing trend for new series being made with fewer cels. IMO while CG was used intelligently in Esca, the CG was still too noticeable. Even the famed Studio Ghibli experimented rather successfully I might add, with digital painting on Mononoke Hime. Their most recent film, Spirit Away had considerably more computer assisted animation and painting. The improvements are noticeable. Furthermore, most people should know also know that in tv and OVA series, cels are simply being used sparingly if at all. Although Gainax produced Mahoromatic with cels, there is a trend to do otherwise. Such is the case with Chobits and Love Hina, which did not have cels at all, collectors of these series can only find the genga and dougas. Does this mean the demise of cel animation? Unfortunately, yes. However, I believe this will take more time as the entire industry in JP accepts the limitations and benefits of CG assisted animation. Personally, I do not wish or desire that all studios stop using cel animation. As a collector of anime cels, I can tell you there is a difference in the richness and depth in the colors, which I have not yet to see equaled in CG animation. If you are interested in learning more about this aspect of anime production, visit the forum at www.animanga.com and search the huge archives.
Disney’s decision to stop using cels in their animated features and focus on CG animated productions is a questionable decision. Eisner has little to no training in traditional animation vs. CG animation. This is the core of his disagreement with the last Disney member on the board, who sadly was forced to resign. Eisner wants to make Disney competitive with the likes of Pixar and PDI, but what he fails to understand is that the storytelling and character development is paramount. The medium used to create and express it is a secondary matter. Eisner does not understand this and truth be told, look at direction Disney has since gone with the colossal disappointments the past releases were. Moreover, due to Disney’s recent failures, it gives Pixar a huge edge in the renegotiation for better terms. Disney needs Pixar badly. If Disney’s own animated films were solely used to distinguish itself as a leader in the animation industry, it would probably lose to Pixar. An executive such as Eisner usually does not understand what is needed to create a good animated feature or short. In addition, I do not think his decision will necessarily diversify the market stateside; there are already large established and financially successful production houses, mainly based throughout California. Remember not all production houses and studios have the financial stability and support to dedicate a large portion of their resources to one project. Financial stability is one thing that absolutely separates the large studios from the smaller ones, who might specialize in commercials or tv shorts. Entering the playing field of animated films is not easy and few companies can do this. I would only be curious to see certain animes redone completely using CG. This does not mean I necessary want everything to become 3D, but a few titles I am curious about getting redone would be GUNNM, Guyver and Iczer 1. Ultimately, I firmly believe regardless of the technological innovations, a strong storyline and interesting character development remains the paramount in importance. 
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So DraZtic
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was spiderman cancelld???
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space clam
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I think so. If it's not dead, it probably has some awful time slot, like Sunday morning at 2:30 A.M. I thought it was all right, though I prefer the original animated series. |
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Dilandau
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Mahoro covered the cg vs cel universe pretty well. It is indeed true that it is immensely more cost effective to use cg as opposed to the traditional cel medium. And for this one reason alone, it is a pretty sure sign that cel animation is doomed.
The one good note on this point, however, is that most of the Japanese studios realize the limitations and different 'feel' of cg vs cel animation. Take in point, NOIR and Mahoromatic that both required a substantial focus on expression and emotion. So, until cg evolves to the point where it can reproduce the 'goodness' of cel quality work, it is safe to say that it will remain an open option for the studios. As I stated earlier, I love the original cel animation over the cg. The biggest problem to me, is that they are completely different mediums and they do not at all mix well. Its like using pastel and acrylic in the same picture. It is nausiating. And occasionally they do even worse things like 2d and 3d at the same time like Vandread. *Shudders* I don't really mind the purely digi anime, I just wish that they wouldn't mix them. |
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