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Blanchimont
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 5:40 am |
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Payment processors strike again?
We need laws against that kind of thing. Or don't we already have laws against monopolies? Like here in Europe with the action against Google and Apple and their app stores..
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Nate148
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 8:15 am |
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Underage girls strike again that all.
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Blanchimont
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 8:50 am |
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| Nate148 wrote: | | Underage girls strike again that all. |
Fictional underage girls. And this isn't even that kind of work.
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encrypted12345
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 8:54 am |
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| Blanchimont wrote: | Payment processors strike again?
We need laws against that kind of thing. Or don't we already have laws against monopolies? Like here in Europe with the action against Google and Apple and their app stores.. |
I think it's Nintendo of America being strict. During the switch era, they seemed pretty lax when it came to third parties, but that started to change a bit about the time the Switch 2 came out or at least late in the Switch 1 era. This isn't the only game they didn't allow on their store recently.
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Blanchimont
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 9:03 am |
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| encrypted12345 wrote: | | I think it's Nintendo of America being strict. During the switch era, they seemed pretty lax when it came to third parties, but that started to change a bit about the time the Switch 2 came out or at least late in the Switch 1 era. This isn't the only game they didn't allow on their store recently. |
If it's Nintendo themselves behind this I accept it, even though I don't like it, especially as the games were deemed fine to be published previously.
But if it's the card companies, or them exerting pressure on Nintendo, to result in this, it's them abusing their dominant market position.
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whiskeyii
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:12 am |
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| Blanchimont wrote: | |
Fictional underage girls. And this isn't even that kind of work. |
I believe in the previous thread about this it was speculated the Birthday Bash might have been the “complication” as it does have that kind of content featuring underage girls.
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FishLion
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:22 am |
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Any company media company that restricts content nowadays this way is avoiding having a Steam situation. They don't want to have a big debacle because while Steam is known for just having everything, Nintendo does not want to have to remove games after they come out and have people explain what's in them for the public to see what else their kids could buy without parental controls.
These types of games got by for years because they flew under the radar but thanks to the Steam situation NoA has to be careful or all people will talk about it the lurid contents they found approved of on the store.
So if I had to guess NoA is doing this themselves before it becomes a thing to keep other stuff on their store from being scrutinized, I would still blame processors myself though. The good news is if you want it you can change your location to Japan, buy it in the Japanese eShop with full English options, then switch it back and keep the game. It still sucks for sure but that means people can at least support the release and get the game without importing a Japanese physical or whatever.
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ninjamitsuki
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 12:11 pm |
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And yet all those softcore porn titles on the eshop remain...
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Cryten
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 3:46 pm |
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| Blanchimont wrote: | | Nate148 wrote: | | Underage girls strike again that all. |
Fictional underage girls. And this isn't even that kind of work. |
While that is a defence in some places, in other places, especially many European countries, it is not. Infact to the point of being tested in court as a defence and being rejected leading to some people getting jailed over physical under aged hentai manga imported. Its just that many regions do not actively police against the offences so people only get in trouble at country borders or when arrested for worse.
The payment processors acting on such things was significent because it was private businesses enforcing on what even major countries police couldnt be bothered with.
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Blanchimont
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 4:57 pm |
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| Cryten wrote: | | Blanchimont wrote: | | Nate148 wrote: | | Underage girls strike again that all. |
Fictional underage girls. And this isn't even that kind of work. |
While that is a defence in some places, in other places, especially many European countries, it is not. |
As said, it is not that kind of work. I dare you to find anything in those four games that would run foul of laws in ANY country in Europe..
| Quote: | | The payment processors acting on such things was significent because it was private businesses enforcing on what even major countries police couldnt be bothered with. |
And that IS a problem, because as a global duopoly (Visa, Mastercard, with amex as a distant third) they wield so much power they essentially have sway over entire countries with their whims.
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CreativelyFwrd
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 6:46 pm |
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| Blanchimont wrote: | | If it's Nintendo themselves behind this I accept it, even though I don't like it, especially as the games were deemed fine to be published previously.
But if it's the card companies, or them exerting pressure on Nintendo, to result in this, it's them abusing their dominant market position. |
Nah, it's NoA. The games they banned from their platform are available on others like Steam and even the PlayStation Store. It's just Nintendo falling back into their puritan ways from the Wii U era. We've even had cases where company representatives working on these titles mention it's specifically about the games not meeting Nintendo's guidelines. If it was payment processors the other platforms and even the Japanese release would be affected as well.
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lumclaw
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 7:57 pm |
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| FishLion wrote: | | Any company media company that restricts content nowadays this way is avoiding having a Steam situation. They don't want to have a big debacle because while Steam is known for just having everything, Nintendo does not want to have to remove games after they come out and have people explain what's in them for the public to see what else their kids could buy without parental controls.
These types of games got by for years because they flew under the radar but thanks to the Steam situation NoA has to be careful or all people will talk about it the lurid contents they found approved of on the store.
So if I had to guess NoA is doing this themselves before it becomes a thing to keep other stuff on their store from being scrutinized, I would still blame processors myself though. The good news is if you want it you can change your location to Japan, buy it in the Japanese eShop with full English options, then switch it back and keep the game. It still sucks for sure but that means people can at least support the release and get the game without importing a Japanese physical or whatever. |
Essentially, can doesn't mean should. Yeah a company has the choice to not conduct business with another company (or what content they wish to host on servers they own). Yet it's widely understood by now, that their motives are very much suspect!
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FishLion
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 8:52 pm |
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That may be true, but it is undoubtedly the reason they are suddenly clamping down on content. The other recent example of NoA refusing a game was also after the Steam debacle.
It's important to understand that people like Collective Shout do this on purpose for intimidation.
One of the groups they work with, NCOSE, was instrumental in suing VISA for content on the PornHub website because they accepted money from them and not there is a legal precedent that if VISA doesn't actively police certain content they could get sued again. That is why payment processors have been so aggressive the last few years and why anti-porn activists groups love to harass them into censoring things they don't like, because they know if they harass VISA and the company doesn't remove content that violates their rules then they could be held respsensible for the damages like they were with PornHub
So while I agree that NoA should stand up to such things I also understand they are at a legal disadvantage and if their payment processing was threatened like Steam's would they would have no recourse but to probably remove even more games. Steam also had to remove games that had content of virtual children, as much as I want people to fight these things the payment processors have unilateral control over their business by threatening payments.
Even if they sued VISA/Mastercard to change the rules, they would have their store down for the entire legal process because there is nothing illegal about the rules. Someone said if that was the concern the Japanese game would be down too but I disagree.
The processors are mainly policing things that are easily accessible like the fact anyone could type in DLSite and see the entire catalogue or games you can search on Steam, but I'm pretty sure that they know these companies are primarily English speaking and aren't switching their Nintendo eShops to Japanese to find every piece of content in every region, they just can't let you boot up a normal Switch and find sexual content of virtual children or they could get sued so they will shut you down.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:42 pm |
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| Blanchimont wrote: | | If it's Nintendo themselves behind this I accept it, even though I don't like it, especially as the games were deemed fine to be published previously. |
Seems like only yesterday (and not several years ago) when people were losing their shit over Sony blocking the American & European releases of Omega Labyrinth Z over content in addition to the PS4 version of the following game being censored. And of course the sentiment at the time was Nintendo would never do something like this.
Seems funnier now.
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That Little Rapscallion
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:32 pm |
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Sadly it appears Nintendo is insistent on burning all the good will they fostered during the early Switch days of not blocking third party titles. Although at least half the games affected have just been remasters/ports so the originals are freely available to play through other means.
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