Forum - View topicREVIEW: Sayonara, Zetsubou-Sensei GN 4
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dtm42
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Methinks the blurb doesn't understand that humans gestate for only nine months, not ten and-a-half. |
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neocloud9
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Y'know, I really like Zetsubou-Sensei's simple art style... Is there a name for that?
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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Perhaps minimalist? Definitely a subjective art style. Some people like it because the work is without waste and without distracting elements. Other think it looks kind of cheap. Neither opinion is necessarily wrong. |
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CCSYueh
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The doc always counts from the last cycle the gal had & gals are warned the baby can come any time in the month & one gal in my lamaz class went over her due date(which also happens). Mine was 2 weeks early. It's not as definite as you're trying to make it. And yeah, I thought of that during the chapter, but it adds to his persona that he's worked up about it. I love the art. It reminds me of the old wood-block stuff. I never thought of it as cheap newspaper art because it';s so clean & sharp. Sensei does not live in a world of greys-it's all or nothing & the art supports this. This, Excel & Gintama I make time to read at home on my bed so I can be un-interrupted. All 3 are text-dependant. Gintama takes awhile to get thru because there is usually so much dialogue per page while with Excel & this title I'm constantly reading the note, then read the story up to the note, then read the next note, etc. At least Excel gives page & frame (not that most of the pages are numbered...) Not knowing the joke doesn't really detract from the humor. The Marx Brothers are still funny even though some of their jokes referred to the times they lived in. |
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njprogfan
 Collector Extraordinaire Posts: 1160 Location: A River Named Toms |
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I agree with all of your review Carlos, except for the rating for the art. It fits the overall point of view of this manga, it's either black or white, clean and to the point. The one thing I do is read this in sittings one chapter at a time. There are moments when I just need a break, especially when there's a ton of Japanese references that I need to read at the back of the book, exhausting
 I tend to leave this as one of the last to read if I have a stack. It's definately one of a kind 
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belvadeer
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Sorry but I have to stand up for the art's sake too. It's never been a bad point for me either. It doesn't bother me (except where I was unable to tell one particular student from another in a certain scene but whatever) his style is what many people would call simple.
However, I have to admit that the bullet points of the current despair topic do tend to get a little hard to bear sometimes. I do need to occasionally look back in the glossary to catch the few references I don't get (usually of the specific Japanese people that are joked on). But all in all, this manga isn't a waste of my time just because the humor is three years old. People still find stupid online memes funny and they've been using the same ones for years. Last edited by belvadeer on Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:34 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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The Human Spider
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I usually don't like satire too much, but what makes ZETSUBOU SENSEI really work for me is it seems to have no agenda except to rant about EVERYTHING. I like the art too--with manga I tend to prefer simpler art styles--though I do have a slight problem with the sameyness of the character designs. I think if I didn't watch the anime first I would have had trouble following who's who.
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bravetailor
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The art actually displays a very fine graphic design sense that you don't find in most manga. There's a lot of thought put into spotting blacks and pictorial composition.
The main complaint is that the characters lack visual variety. But it doesn't distract from the fact that this a very design-heavy art style. |
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marzipan.dragon
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I love the art. Especially the simple variety of designs in Zetsubou-Sensei's kimonos.
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slickwataris
 Posts: 1334 Location: Carol Stream, Illinois |
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The art is the only thing doing it for me, honestly. Simply put, the only thing funny about this series is the fact that I have to flip to the back of the book after every panel just to understand what's going on. I like the character, but this series was obviously written for Japanese people only.
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CCSYueh
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That's a bold statement. If YOU can't "get" it, no one outside of Japan can? Written for Japanese only? Honestly, most manga is written pretty much for the immediate audience in Japan with no thought to how it will be received in other countries. That goes for Bleach, Naruto, all of them. It matters little to the magazines running the manga in Japan whether the title has legs outside their readership. They're looking to sell magazines That goes for our entertainment, too, you know. It matters little how well the world receives The Simpsons or Supernatural. When enough viewers in the US stop watching those shows, they will go away. |
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omelette
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Have to agree with most posters about the art since I think it lends a lot to what the manga aims to do. The reviewer's numerous comments about the one-dimensionality of Nozomu and his students is a little weird, though.
I mean, isn't this manga a parody/gag series/satire? I don't know how funny it would be if the characters grew into, uh, well-adjusted individuals far different from the caricatures of certain stereotypes that they currently are. Which kinda means it'll be a show full of Nami Hitos (not that I would mind since I like her, but I like everyone's craziness too, so...) and... I don't know how funny that will be. I don't know how effective it would be either since the entire manga relies on the premise of: common societal expectations >> Nozomu lamenting on common societal expectation >> class reacting to common societal expectation depending on what stereotype they fall into >> fun tiemz. It's not really a slice-of-life story nor a character-driven story. It's not about how the characters grow by interacting with each other, either. It's a parody manga poking fun at things we accept as commonalities but are actually pretty weird and effed up if we look closer. So character development and/or an overarching storyarc isn't really needed. |
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norrinradd1
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I love the art.
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momoiroceo
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the review kinda bummed me out for the same reasons. really?! a c+ for art?! UNFAIR.
i find it kind of aesthetically pleasing. i'm not so into manga & comics, though, so the whole of "szs" is rather agreeable to me: a lot of text with clean&simple drawing. very well-stylized, too, i thought. |
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tripdragon
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How can you Diss the Art???! It's one of it's great strengths. It's unique and gets right to the point. Reviewer failz. Go back to reading your years old bleach art.
BAH!! C- my a$$ |
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