Forum - View topicWould you still like it if it were not technichally "an
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yardsale09
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Would you still like something that was similar to anime, even if it were not technichally anime or manga? Im not talking about sometihng that just copies the "anime" style. Something that were in cartoon/ comic form wasn't like your typical American cartoons, or American comics (which are almost completely dominated by the super hero genre)?
I would, as long as it wasnt just trying to copy the "anime" art style. As long as it had a good plot line, good characters, and interesting concepts I would like it. The reasons I just listed are some of the main reasons I was attracted to anime. I've asked some people I know that like anime, and most said they probably wouldnt like it, mainly because they think its an anime rip off, or becasue its not from japan. I think this is pretty stupid. I wish I could think of an example ofr this, but h the best I can come up wtih is Avatar, the Last Air Bender. Even though that is kind of a cartoon that copy's the anime style, and I think its was made somewhere in Korea. Anyways, I like that show enought to watch when it comes on. Its got a good story line, the art looks pretty good, and I like the characters. My only complaint is that its a little imature, but then again it is a kids show, and for a kids show its pretty dam good. If this show were made more adult/ mature I'd absolutely love it. So basically, would you support shows similar avatar (more mature though) if it were good, even it weren't "anime". |
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Kyle Smyth
 Posts: 157 Location: Ontario, Canda |
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I like anime because of the stories and artwork. I dislike most North American made cartoons because the artwork usually distorts parts of the body, such as the show Daft Planet which had every human character have no neck (granted I enjoyed the show, that is the second point I have to make). I also usually dislike most North American made cartoons because the stories,well, suck. I hate the cartoons that are made for kids where everything is predictable and the story follows something along the lines of some dip shit kid playing ball with his dog.
So I guess I could like something similar to anime as long as it is not an obvious "copy" of something already out there and has a great plot. |
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The Frankman
 Posts: 1160 Location: Binary Culture HQ |
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I don't care one way or another if something is Japanese anime or not. The day I start caring is the day I stop watching cartoons altogether.
Viva la animation!!! |
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Ohoni
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I like plenty of shows that aren't anime. I do tend to have LESS favorable responses to a show if I feel that they are consiously aping the anime style in a callous attempt to pick up Pokemon fans or whatever. The first season ot Teen Titans, for example, bugged the crap out of me due to the anime-esc sight gags. That isn't because it's not anime though, it's only because it was so hacky. If a show happens to look a bit like anime, but does so with respect to the genre, like Boondocks does, it doesn't bother me in the least though.
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shirokiryuu
Posts: 714 Location: Northern California (SF Bay Area) |
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the overexaggeration of the "anime" style during comedic moments bothered me the most. As for plotwise, etc. i'm fine with it... |
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kapalika
 Posts: 8 Location: Oxford |
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I don't think a series/movie has to be made by Japanese to be Anime. After all, a lot of Anime is actually animated by studios in Korea or China. For me, Anime is a style, an artistic tradition, like Impressionism or Baroque. If it fits the style, then its Anime, no matter where it's made. If American/European/Chinese/etc. companies started making shows or movies in the style of Anime (both the visual and narrative styles), for me that would be Anime. In fact, I wish American animators would start doing just that. I am not too impressed with much animation that's been put out in the US. If American animators started making animation as good as what's being done in Japan, who could complain? Let's hope Anime spreads.
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Crazy Battousai
 Posts: 25 Location: Chester,MD (Eastern Shore Middle O Nowhere) |
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The Frankman wrote:
Yeah I agree with Frankman if it has a good story and good artwork. |
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ShadrachAnki
 Posts: 180 Location: New England |
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I find that where something comes from is of much less importance than the story and the characters being portrayed. This is equally true for animation, live action shows, novels, and sequential art of all kinds.
In my case, I find that the stories told and the characters portrayed in anime are by and large superior to a large portion of the American cartoon offerings. I also find anime to be more appealing artistically to me than a lot of American cartoons. I really appreciate series that treat children and young adults as intelligent people who are able to comprehend and follow a story as it grows over the course of a series. In general these stories will have more realistic and complex characters and plots that are thought out and planned. They will not rely solely on gimmicks (slapstick, scatilogical humor, associated toys, etc) to gain and hold an audience. Avatar: the Last Airbender and Danny Phantom are probably two of my favorite animated series on television right now. Avatar in particular has really impressed me because it has a story where episode order matters, the characters are engaging, and they really do cover a lot of issues (friendship, loyalty, honor, courage, respect, right and wrong) over the course of the first season. It is also a show that seems to me to be very planned out, with a definite episode count in mind, season-long stories that unfold, and the appropriate amount of character growth. The two episode season finale that just aired was, quite frankly, amazing. I don't know, maybe I'm just looking at the past with rose colored glasses, but I remember there being quite a few really good animated shows on American TV when I was younger. Things like David the Gnome and, well...She-Ra. I still enjoy both series today, and not just for the nostalgia value. I also really enjoyed (and still enjoy) a bunch of the older Disney shows like Ducktales, Chip and Dale: Rescue Rangers, and Darkwing Duck. I don't remember if Gargoyles falls into the same category, but it was another good older show. I also still have a great fondness for the Jetsons and quite a few of the old HannaBarbara shows, and I'm glad a bunch of these are starting to come out on DVD. ~Shadrach Anki |
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kapalika
Posts: 8 Location: Oxford |
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In my original post I talked about Anime specifically. I said that I don't thinkt that "Anime" has to be Japanese. For me, it's a style, not something produced by people of a given ethnic background. I'll stick to that. However, having read Shadrach's comments, with which I agree, I should say that there's a lot of good animation that's not Anime. There's also a lot of good animation that's not drawn or computer generated. I'd like to recommend to any fellow animation fans some works from Eastern Europe. There's some incredible animation from (the former country of) Czechoslavakia that's amazing. Seriously, check out (no pun intended, believe me) Fimfarum, the movies of Jan Svankmajer, Jiri Barta's Krysar, etc. They are incredible!!!! Interesting to note, most of them are only available on DVD in JAPAN! What a shock. |
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deathbringer
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Avatar I can kind of see, but Danny Phantom? Really? There's a show on Toon Disney which I think has an interesting art style but rarely watch (because my TV guide doesn't list Toon Disney so I have no way of knowing when it's on) called W.I.T.C.H, I'm not clear on the premise or plot or anything, but it does have an appealing art style. |
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The Frankman
Posts: 1160 Location: Binary Culture HQ |
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Holy crap a She-Ra reference. Let all the Masters of the Universe convene to drive out evil across the land!
But back in the day the shows were awesome. Thundercats, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Tiny Toon Adventures, the Disney Afternoon, and of course I'd be shot on sight if I didn't mention probably the greatest American TV animation of the early 90's, Batman: The Animated Series. To this day I dare someone to te me one thing subpar with the show . . . plots, VAing, whatever. I'm still waiting. |
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Bruce Lee
 Posts: 715 Location: Seattle, Washington |
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Here Here! Batman the Animated series is one of the finest animated works I've seen. And in the beginning of bringing Superman into that fold, there were some great stories told there. I was also a big fan of Exo Squad, which was another cool show, although admittedly not on the same lvl as Batman. Who knows, there may be some awesome Nigerian animated movies that I've never seen before. I wouldn't like it more or less because of where it's from, or how 1337 it is. It's all art. |
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