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crassvs



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:37 pm Reply with quote
Hi!

I'm kind of new to anime and am looking for some quality sci-fi stuff. I have seen Ghost in a Shell and Geist MD and thought these were quite good, but I would prefer more mechs and such in a movie - and of course heavy shootouts ;D.

It would be great if you could recommend me some series or movies!
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:44 pm Reply with quote
If you liked Ghost in the Shell there's a sequel film and a awesome alternate universe television series called Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. Also you may want to try Appleseed which is from the same creator.

Other Suggestions for general Sci-Fi:

Planetes is one my personal favorites at the moment. It revolves around a team of EVA space workers who clear space debris from orbit and they're new recruit Ai Tanabe. It has an excellent set of characters, drama, humor, and romance. Also scientifically speaking it's quite believable and accurate. As of today 4 of the 6 volumes are out.

Infinite Ryvius is also quite an impressive science fiction series with some mech elements. It shows the good and bad sides of human nature in extreme situations. Durring a routine dive operation into a phenomonon that has ingulfed the solar system, the Astronaut training center Liebe Delta is sabotauged. The instructors stop the decent in a valiant effort but are killed in the process leaving the hundreds of trainees to fend for themselves trapped on board. However, things are more complicated as inside the wreck of the station is concealed an experimental starship. They must now somehow find a way to live and work togather, and learn how to operate it, all while trying to find rescue and outrun or out fight their mysterious enemies.

For Mech series I suggest:

Full Metal Panic Sargent Souske Sagara a member of the global peachkeeping mercenary organization known as Mithril, is assigned the duty of protecting high school student named Kanami Chidori. She is what's known as a "whispered" people who somehow instinctively know details about highly advanced and futuristic technology. Primarily a mech series with great action, and lots of comedy.

Gundam-There's a ton of them to choose from and most of them are great for action, drama, and mech vs mech action. It comes in two varieties UC (The main timeline) and alternate universes which are pretty much stand alone series. I personally recomend starting with Gundam Seed, Gundam Wing, Gundam-The 08th MS Team, or if older animation doesn't bother you the three Mobile Suit Gundam movies which compile and compress the major events from the series of the same name.


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Kyle Smyth



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:08 pm Reply with quote
I really enjoyed Akira as a great sci-fi. It doesn't have much mech or heavy shootouts, however it is loaded with violence and a sweet plot.
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patch



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:31 pm Reply with quote
You won't see mechs -- but a decent amount of action packed gunfights;) in Cowboy Bebop. Great series with sci-fi/western genre. What sets it apart from other series is the really deep character development/relationships throughout the series as well the unique episodic yet driving storyline by the master Shinichiro Watanabe.
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crassvs



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 9:22 am Reply with quote
Thanks for all your recommendations - I'm sure there is something I like amongst them Very Happy
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Guilhem



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:11 am Reply with quote
Being a big Science-Fiction fan and a true mechafreak, I have some recommendations which may suit your tastes ^^

Bubblegum Crisis' bit of an oldy but a real 'classic' of the SF/mecha genre with nice fights and an ever-increasing quality of animation through episodes. I'm talking of the OAV version, not the latest TV series, Bubblegum Crisis 2040, that I still have to see... The OAV has recently been rereleased as a complete boxset by Animeigo with entirely remastered footage

You can't go wrong with Armitage III, either the 4 part OAV or the compilation movie, though this last one is less 'complete' like it's often the case with recaps. The story is very reminiscent of Asimov's Robots cycle, a classic of the SF litterature. The movie sequel Armitage III: Poly-Matrix is good too in terms of animation and action

Blue Gender is heavily packed with nice mecha action and a great post-apocalyptic setting very reminiscent of Genesis Climber Mospeada (a.k.a. Robotech: the New Generation for some...) as well as Robert Silverberg's The world inside, another 'classic' of the SF litterature

Brain Powered is a great epic tale from Yoshiyuki Tomino, the creator of First Gundam, with music by Yoko Kanno and designs by Mamoru Nagano: a great staff for a great anime IMO but you know this thing about tastes...

I recently watched Detonator Orgun and found it pretty cool: nice designs, unusual storyline and good action make of this show a 'classic' from the 80s

Full Metal Panic is recent and quickly became a favorite among the mechafreaks: rather humoristic with unusual characters and an almost contemporary setting, I highly recommend it to everyone who likes Patlabor-like 'realism' but without all the thoughts and atmosphere which tend to slow down the pace and make action scenes rather scarce

The Gall Force series is great. Another oldy but with very good animation for its time and an original base concept. The interest of sequels tends to decrease after each new 'episode' but the very first one, Gall Force: Eternal Story, is a must-see IMO. From the same studio which did Bubblegum Crisis and Genesis Climber Mospeada mentioned above

Grey: Digital Target is one of my all-time favorites: post-apocalyptic and ultra-violent world but not a lot of mechas, and the overall storyline is 'cut' before the end of the manga it is adapted from. Still, it deserves to be seen...

Do not miss Gunbuster! Originally planned as some sort of super robot genre parody, this 6-parts OAV quickly gained its own identity and became another true classic of the mecha genre. It's from Gainax (Wings of Honneamise, Evangelion,...)

Iria Zeiram is refreshing with its original designs and will probably hook you with its very cool fight scenes. No mechas but nice vehicles and ships as well as a true space opera feeling which reminded of Star Wars personnally

If you want humor and action with interesting setting and plot, I recommend Martian Successor Nadesico: I am not particularly fond of it strictly speaking but it deserves to be seen if you want to watch good mecha action in a easy-to-follow story full of nice characters. you can pass on the movie sequel: despite its great animation qualities, I found it rather poor mainly because of the lack of humor which is the strongest point of the TV series IMO

Sol Bianca: The Legacy looks like a tribute of the space operas from the 30s or the 40s. Great designs and overall looks but tends to lack of action, it's more of an 'atmosphere' story but with originality and personnality. No mechas either but great space ships

Venus Wars is worth the look: great animation but a rather simple plot, and no mechas (except if you count heavy tanks and combat motorcycles as mechas). Very good action/fights scenes though

Zone of the Enders: Dolores, i is great: very funny and with one of the most 'charismatic' main character I've ever seen, all the more as it's a mecha. Give it a try, you'll not regret it. Zone of the Enders, Idolo is the prequel but appealed less to me

Super Dimensional Fortres Macross is another classic but its animation is definitely old by nowaday standards. Still, a great story and awesome designs which were sort of 'revolutionary' in their time as well as some very good mecha action

Otherwise, I agree with Kruszer concerning the whole Gundam franchise, except for Wing but it's another debate. Give a try to the Movie Trilogy and The 08th MS Team (Miller's Report is a recap movie of episodes 1 to 8 and a nice intro to the whole OAV...) to get an overall feeling. Then, if you like it, do not miss Zeta Gundam and Char's Counterattack as well as Gundam F-91, this last one particularly has great animation and some astounding combat sequences
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sean



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:30 am Reply with quote
Last Exile as it is an amazing and profound anime set due to the amazing animation, toryline and characters. technolyze (sp?) because I don't think I have seen a scifi show, including non-anime, that was more creative and deeper. If you want some random shoot em up anime while still have some plot, I would sugget gungrave. Elfien leid was a very good and short anime as well if you do not want to devote as much time to watching a series. None of these have mecha, but are very heavy on the sci-fi part.
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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:32 pm Reply with quote
I've seen no mention of Kiddy Grade which has traditional SciFi trappings like terraforming, warp gates, AI, nanotech but also, unusually, what are essentially space elevators.
The spinoff has been mentioned, but not the original Sol Bianca (which is the only one available in the UK) which I am rather fond of and also has stuff like monomolecular string, dimensional phasing etc.
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:22 pm Reply with quote
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Bubblegum Crisis' bit of an oldy but a real 'classic' of the SF/mecha genre with nice fights and an ever-increasing quality of animation through episodes. I'm talking of the OAV version, not the latest TV series, Bubblegum Crisis 2040, that I still have to see... The OAV has recently been rereleased as a complete boxset by Animeigo with entirely remastered footage


Being a fan of the BGC universe myself I would also highly recomend anything in it. Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040 was actually my favorite of them. Even though it's an alternate universe take, the storyline is well done and more epic, the characters are brought to life just as well as the OVA if not better, and it has a rocking techno soundtrack. Also related to these two series are Bubblegum Crash a sequel to the original OVA and some spin-off series showing the AD Police's side of things called AD Police Files (Short OVA featuring Leon), AD Police (13 episode series featuring an all new cast), and Parasite Dolls (have no clue where it fits and it also has an original cast).
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Guilhem



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:08 am Reply with quote
I believe Parasite Dolls' a spin-off of AD Police (TV). One of my favorites from this franchise: very good animation and a great plot, overally far better than GitS' one IMO
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S_C_L-1



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:37 pm Reply with quote
Here's a few that have been left out!

Cowboy Bebop

An excellent sci-fi anime that has turned many people into anime fanatics (myself included)

Outlaw Star

Outlaw star has a somewhat smaller fanbase than bebop but still quite popular! the buzz over it may have died down, but it's still a classic!

Rah Xephon

Not quite as popular as the above... 50/50 chance that you'd like this 1...

Trigun

a weird mix of sci-fi and western... still one of the most popular (finished) animes series out there!
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Sam-I-Am



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:07 pm Reply with quote
Don't forget Neon Genesis Evangelion and Gasarki. Eva may not stand on the firmest ground, physics-wise, but it's at least as realistic as the other mentioned, perhaps more so. Gasaraki is the most grounded-in-reality mecha I've seen to date, with Planetes getting the highest marks for paying attention to real physics.

Serial Experiments Lain is not mecha, but is very cyber-oriented, in a Matrix kind of way. If you like the endless discussions in Ghost in the Shell, you may like Lain.
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S_C_L-1



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:02 am Reply with quote
Sam-I-Am wrote:
Don't forget Neon Genesis Evangelion and Gasarki. Eva may not stand on the firmest ground, physics-wise, but it's at least as realistic as the other mentioned, perhaps more so. Gasaraki is the most grounded-in-reality mecha I've seen to date, with Planetes getting the highest marks for paying attention to real physics.

Serial Experiments Lain is not mecha, but is very cyber-oriented, in a Matrix kind of way. If you like the endless discussions in Ghost in the Shell, you may like Lain.


i admit the whoal wire thing was cool, but it seemed too much like the "soap opera of mecha anime"...

Heh... well... the new-er ghost in the shell... the original was crap Anime hyper
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Guilhem



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:56 am Reply with quote
If you're into the cyberpunk thing, but without too much endless speeches, I recommend you Bubblegum Crisis 2040 that I was talking about previously: I finished it precisely yesterday and it's really a nice improvement onto the original OAV, both in terms of plot and design with good character relationships and development. Really a must-see IMO
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Cephus



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:59 pm Reply with quote
My biggest problem with the sci-fi that's coming out of Japan right now is that it's not all that sci-fi, it's mostly fantasy with a little sci-fi draped over it. It's whispy-thin magic robots with psychic girls, etc. No thanks.

I have to agree with a lot of others though, shows like Full Metal Panic and any of the original Gundam or Gundam Seed shows are excellent, along with Planetes, which is near-future sci-fi as it should be done.

I really wish there was more decent hard sci-fi coming out but it seems to be out of fashion at the moment.
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