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MFrontier
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:56 pm |
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"The new manga is an essay comic about Nagata's recovery after a mental and emotional breakdown." - Again!? I mean, it'll probably be super engaging and I wish her the best but I feel like every time a new work of hers comes out it's about how her mental health has taken a turn for the worse even if this is about her recovering.
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OtomeGay
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:26 pm |
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I really wish things were getting better for her.
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Vee-Tee
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:36 pm |
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Just a reminder, mental health recovery isn’t linear and sometimes it feels like the person is taking as many steps back as forwards. (Addiction spirals, being happy and well-adjusted, seemingly back to normal activities, then spending a week in bed crying.) I hope people realise that before yet another comment about Nagata supposedly ‘exploiting’ her illness and in one take I’ve seen, ‘refusing to get better’. What.
Sadly a lot of conditions aren’t exactly these binary phases of being sick and then being better.
I love her works for their raw honesty, from one chronically ill person to another. Being house-bound during a flare up of my liver disorder (hemochromatosis) sucks, and these mangas actually help me feel less alone. I don’t like the idea that there has to be this arc where people get better, because for a lot of us, that is not the case. Sometimes, you don’t want to read the inspirational story of someone who got better because of XYZ lifestyle change or whatever.
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Wyvern
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:48 pm |
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| Vee-Tee wrote: | | Just a reminder, mental health recovery isn’t linear and sometimes it feels like the person is taking as many steps back as forwards. |
Thank you for pointing this out. It's really important that people realize that mental illness, addiction, and the like, are things that many people struggle with for their entire lives. Many mental conditions have no cure; your only choice is to manage the illness every day for the rest of your life. It's not something that just goes away one day. Nagata's story is not as unusual as people think; the only primary difference from so many others is that she's documenting her experiences publicly.
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ZetMoon80
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:08 pm |
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I find the first comment in this post somewhat insensitive. If the author wants to tell stories based on her own struggles and experiences, she can write about whatever she wants, and the publisher and her readers already know what kind of work she does. I personally have only read one of her manga, and it's not what I'm used to reading so I don't actively follow her career, but if there are people out there who identify with them and her work helps them to move on, I'm glad for them. There are thousands of works you can read if you are not interested in the works and the themes she addresses.
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whiskeyii
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:44 pm |
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I don't think it's insensitive so much as, to quote another review of her previous work:
| Quote: | | Being a fan of Nagata Kabi is a complicated thing. You're witnessing a creative pour her heart out, while also desperately wanting her to get help. |
...Yeah, honestly I got nothing to add to that. :T It's complicated.
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OtomeGay
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:18 pm |
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| Vee-Tee wrote: | | Just a reminder, mental health recovery isn’t linear and sometimes it feels like the person is taking as many steps back as forwards. (Addiction spirals, being happy and well-adjusted, seemingly back to normal activities, then spending a week in bed crying.) I hope people realise that before yet another comment about Nagata supposedly ‘exploiting’ her illness and in one take I’ve seen, ‘refusing to get better’. What.
Sadly a lot of conditions aren’t exactly these binary phases of being sick and then being better.
I love her works for their raw honesty, from one chronically ill person to another. Being house-bound during a flare up of my liver disorder (hemochromatosis) sucks, and these mangas actually help me feel less alone. I don’t like the idea that there has to be this arc where people get better, because for a lot of us, that is not the case. Sometimes, you don’t want to read the inspirational story of someone who got better because of XYZ lifestyle change or whatever |
Apologies, I really hope my comment didn't come across as this! While I can't speak on chronic illness, I have dealt with mental illness my whole life, and Nagata's works have been very cathartic for this reason. I don't think she's exploiting anything, nor is she "refusing" to get better. All I meant was that I wish things were easier for her, as I do for myself and others struggling with mental illness.
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Vee-Tee
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:59 am |
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| OtomeGay wrote: | | Vee-Tee wrote: | | Just a reminder, mental health recovery isn’t linear and sometimes it feels like the person is taking as many steps back as forwards. (Addiction spirals, being happy and well-adjusted, seemingly back to normal activities, then spending a week in bed crying.) I hope people realise that before yet another comment about Nagata supposedly ‘exploiting’ her illness and in one take I’ve seen, ‘refusing to get better’. What.
Sadly a lot of conditions aren’t exactly these binary phases of being sick and then being better.
I love her works for their raw honesty, from one chronically ill person to another. Being house-bound during a flare up of my liver disorder (hemochromatosis) sucks, and these mangas actually help me feel less alone. I don’t like the idea that there has to be this arc where people get better, because for a lot of us, that is not the case. Sometimes, you don’t want to read the inspirational story of someone who got better because of XYZ lifestyle change or whatever |
Apologies, I really hope my comment didn't come across as this! While I can't speak on chronic illness, I have dealt with mental illness my whole life, and Nagata's works have been very cathartic for this reason. I don't think she's exploiting anything, nor is she "refusing" to get better. All I meant was that I wish things were easier for her, as I do for myself and others struggling with mental illness. |
Hey! Just to say my comment wasn’t directed at you, more so that I find a lot of reviewers complaining about Nagata’s manga to be insensitive to the realities of a chronic physical and/or mental illness(es).
The best thing we can say is to hope things get easier, and sometimes they do. Last year I was recovering quite well from a long term flare-up, which was then made worse by several deaths in the family and other assorted stressors. Life sometimes kicks you down as much as it lifts you up.
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