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IronWish
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 9:07 am |
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| Quote: | | It ties into the training and strategies used in the mobile game |
And Obey Your Master adheres to "UmaMusume is a wit game" school of thought.
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JustMonika
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 11:38 am |
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OGURI CAP IS BACK!
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TJ_Kat
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 1:02 pm |
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Referring to Oguri and Tama as "Cap and Cross" bugged me a lot more than it realistically should have. Referring to Oguri as "Oguri" rather than "Cap" was addressed in the first cour, and Oguri and Tama's trainer clearly refer to her as "Tama"/"Tama-chan".
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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 2:10 pm |
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Michelle My Baby seems to be one of if not the only horsegirl without a same-name real life counterpart. She's a riff on a gelding named My Baby Boy, who as far as I can find only had the one notable race at the Japan Cup.
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TJ_Kat
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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:35 pm |
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There have been lots of not-same-name-irl umamusume. It's mostly the international ones due to licensing issues apparently? I mean, Obey Your Master's IRL name is Pay the Butler, and going all the way back to season 1 Broye's IRL name is Montjeu.
The actual weirdest one is Belno Light, who is a combination of the horse Twin Bee and Oguri Cap's farrier from Kasamatsu who followed Oguri to the JRA to continue to be his farrier.
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Nate148
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2025 12:43 am |
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Recall this was a manga so they wanted to to tell cap's story but many of the suporting cast are not very important (or not JRA so cy would have hell to work to get just for a manga) end of end the creator just rolled his own and called it a day.
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DerekL1963
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 3:59 pm |
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| Quote: | | Musaka confirms that it's a legitimate strategy speaks to the wider world of racing approaches that Japanese locals like Oguri and Tamamo might not be prepared for. |
And who was responsible for seeing that Oguri was ready to compete in this race against international racers and the tactics they are know to use?
Musuka.
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TJ_Kat
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:47 pm |
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I get trying to build drama, but stretching a 2 1/2 minute race across two episodes really made this episode fall flat for me.
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Piglet the Grate
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Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:05 pm |
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| TJ_Kat wrote: | | ...Obey Your Master's IRL name is Pay the Butler... |
Was someone listening to Metallica when they chose that name?
Just a reminder for anyone disappointed in the results that the outcomes are based on actual horse races.
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IronWish
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 4:07 am |
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| TJ_Kat wrote: | | I get trying to build drama, but stretching a 2 1/2 minute race across two episodes really made this episode fall flat for me. |
Honestly, that's my biggest problem with Cinderella Gray, it just keeps going for cheap mid race cliffhangers, which makes it feel like stock sports anime. Mainline UmaMusume series pretty much never does this, and it works much better that way, each featured race is a centerpiece of its episode. Cinderella Gray being slower paced allows for deeper dive in racing minutiae, but splitting races between episodes makes it feel slow, which is a cardinal sin for a show about running
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Nate148
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:37 am |
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| Piglet the Grate wrote: | | TJ_Kat wrote: | | ...Obey Your Master's IRL name is Pay the Butler... |
Was someone listening to Metallica when they chose that name?
Just a reminder for anyone disappointed in the results that the outcomes are based on actual horse races. |
A funny rename as pay was born in 84 master of puppets was 86 and pay was a flame out with only two big wins and one notable kid (and she had 2 GIII’s at that)
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TJ_Kat
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2025 9:36 pm |
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So if Dicta saw it that means Roppei saw it too, right?
My take away from the end of the episode is that Michel My Baby was more afraid of Oguri than she was of Tama or Obey. Which does make sense since Oguri beat her without a super-mode even after she bullied Oguri and wore her down.
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IronWish
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 9:09 am |
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Wanted to complain again on how Cinderella Gray manga-inspired structure messes up with the pacing, but Obey You Master backstory was too damn entertaining, she's complete psycho. BTW, there should be at least one Uma serial killer in the world, right? I still think it would flow better if last episode ended with Obey snatching surprise victory, maybe plus extra focus on a sudden personality shift, and then this one got cold open with Obey's flashback. But alas, what we've got was fine enough.
So I'll whine about my second major grievance: how everyone threats "The Zone" as some kind of an actual in-universe power-up state. One of the things I love the most about UmaMusume anime is how, despite outlandish lore&premise and cartoonish physical feats, actual running/racing is surprisingly grounded (being tethered to IRL results also helps with this). Even various ghost chasing in RttT and BotNE is basically just a metaphor for runner's headspace. But here everyone's yapping about "The Zone" so much, it makes me feel like I'm watching Kuroko no Basket of something. Like how the heck Dicta Striker could see ON A TV SCREEN that Oguri has almost entered "The Zone"?
I get what it is here for, we need some kind of progression markers for Oguri's growth, and idea of top athlete "getting in the zone" as in "reaching prime mental and physical condition which lets you push you body and mind to its absolute limit for a short period of time" is a kind of stuff you can hear IRL athletes talking about. But I just don't like how it's treated here. Leaving an original Rudolf's explanation and then just relying on broken glass metaphor would work much better in an anime form than wordy explainers lifted from the manga.
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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 7:15 pm |
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| TJ_Kat wrote: | | The actual weirdest one is Belno Light, who is a combination of the horse Twin Bee and Oguri Cap's farrier from Kasamatsu who followed Oguri to the JRA to continue to be his farrier. |
So that's why she has the BB hairpins (which I think I knew somewhere in the back of my brain and forgot) and cobbles Oguri's shoes instead of a professional farrier?
| review wrote: | | ...here, in this specific scenario, she can win now. It's pointedly the opposite of how a Joker works in games, since she absolutely wasn't pulled in here by chance, |
So how do you think jokers work in games? oO?
Regarding jokers, wiki sez, "it often acts as a wild card, but may have other functions such as the top trump, a skip card (forcing another player to miss a turn), the lowest-ranking card, the highest-value card, or a card of a different value from the rest of the pack." Each of those sound exactly like descriptions of Obey's role at various times in this race. Jokers are not effective due to their chance appearance in a hand, but in how the player uses them to best effect at the right moment. And Obey played her joker perfectly.
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Piglet the Grate
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 10:30 pm |
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| IronWish wrote: | | ...
I get what it is here for, we need some kind of progression markers for Oguri's growth, and idea of top athlete "getting in the zone" as in "reaching prime mental and physical condition which lets you push you body and mind to its absolute limit for a short period of time" is a kind of stuff you can hear IRL athletes talking about. But I just don't like how it's treated here. ... |
The zone is a real thing. More than four decades ago I could do the last 500m of a 10K run in an anaerobic sprint feeling no pain, fatigue, or even effort while doing so until after crossing the finish line and stopping.
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