Forum - View topicSaikano preview on Viz DVDs - dub impressions?
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LordRobin
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Okay, seriously now, I don't expect any in-depth analysis from a 30-second preview where you only hear two voices. But I've been worried about the dub ever since Viz announced it.
Viz does all their dubs through Ocean, which has done a good enough job with Inu-Yasha. But Saikano is without a doubt the most powerful, gut-wrenching, tearful drama I've ever experienced, and it establishes the tone in the first episode. Ocean's usual habit of taking a few episodes to get up to speed (i.e. "Ocean lag") just won't cut it. The first episode has one of the most powerful endings I've ever watched. That one single moment almost reduced me to tears when I watched the fansub. Please, please Ocean -- don't screw it up. Of I'm talking about spoiler[ the moment when Chise is revealed as she truly is, an Angel of Death framed in scene of utter destruction. She sees that Shu has recognized her. She looks back, and says softly, "I'm sorry Shu-chan... I have to go to war now..." Then she's gone. Wow.] From the small clip, it sounds like Shu's voice is well-chosen. I'm wondering about Chise, though. I'm hoping for a soft, quiet voice. What makes Chise special is how small and vulnerable she sounds, even though she's the most terrifying weapon created by man. ------RM |
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darkchibi07
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Can you tell if the Ocean dub is from the "usual" Vancouver dub or Blue Water Studio?
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drakh
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You want to check out Jin-Roh then. It's serious, subtle, ultimately heartbreaking, and dub is generally regarded as terrific from start to finish.
Usual? I thought most of Ocean's recent dubs (Jin-Roh, Soultaker, Master Keaton, Arjuna, Project ARMS, Trouble Chocolate, Boys Over Flowers, Infinite Ryvius, Meltylancer) started off good to great. Inu-Yasha is pretty much their only recent dub that took some time to really get going, but with a TV airing deadline and umpteen episodes to get through, there's limits to how much time they can spend on each episode.
I don't recognize either of the VAs. However Blue Water gets shows because they're cheaper, and it would make no sense for Viz to skimp on the dub after putting down major bucks for such a huge title and lots of extras. Heck, they didn't even skimp on the dub for a marginal title like Trouble Chocolate. |
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LordRobin
Posts: 354 Location: Akron, OH |
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Arjuna did impress the hell out of me (and I said so in my review). If the creative staff behind that dub does Saikano, I don't think I have anything to worry about. Jin-Roh was a movie, so my usual complaint regarding Ocean wouldn't apply. I have trouble imagining any professional dubbing studio would "get up to speed" during the dubbing of a movie. Not these days at any rate. (I own that DVD, and the dub is pretty good. Saikano has it beat it hands down in terms of tearjerking ability, though.) As for the others, can't say that I've seen them. I'll just have to take your word that "Ocean lag" is a thing of the past. I see a lot of anime, but I can't see it all (not if I want a life). I usually just hope that I'm getting a decent sample of each studio. ------RM |
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drakh
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Probably not. The "big" projects are usually done at Ocean's main studio, directed by Karl Willems, while Teri Snelgrove has been busy with Boys Over Flowers, Master Keaton, Galaxy Angel and Banner of the Stars II. Viz will also be picking the cast, and usually likes to handle the ADR scripts themselves.
Hehe, I have a soft spot for Ocean since Ranma was what got me into anime, so I try to at least sample everything they've done. And honestly, I find that if you look at their over all output since the early 90s, most of it holds its own quite well against what other studios were putting out at the time, while the ones that "lag" are relatively few. Aside from a couple old/catalog titles that Bandai didn't want to spend much time/money on, and Inu-Yasha of course, I can only think of Escaflowne and Gundam Wing. Esca was from what I'm told a complete mess behind the scenes, as Saban marched in during pre-production demanded they cut and rewrite the show down to 8 episodes. Bandai, of course, objected, and a big fight ensued. An uncut dub was eventually put together, but it was under bad conditions, and the early episodes still bare the scars of a dumbed down script. Wing was probably more growing pains, combined with a lot of episodes to get through in a short time. It was the first time they'd outsourced the recording to an independent studio, and ended up with an inexperienced voice director (who they haven't used again). Also, both of these two had relatively small number of VAs per episode, with most of the supporting/incidental characters being played by the main cast (and sometimes even moved between several VAs, depending on who was already in the episode). This generally means that the budget was pretty tight, and the dub could have used more money. Compare that to Master Keaton or Infinite Ryvius, who's casts are simply huge. |
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rainking187
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It's funny you mention that line, because I have the official Region 2 DVD, and only the "I'm sorry" line is really in there.
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drakh
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Looks like you won't have to worry about "Ocean lag" after all, as the dub was actually done in San Francisco, by the company that did Jojo's Bizarre Adventure for Super Techno Arts.
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