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MokonaModoki



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:17 am Reply with quote
Pretty timely question about talk about "the industry" given the foolishness averaging a post every 4 minutes in the thread about the Arthur Smith letter today.

I haven't played a single game based on an anime license, but I've been thinking about getting the Bleach game for the Wii (I just need a Wii to play it on).
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:25 am Reply with quote
Love the festive banner.

Happy Holidays Answerman!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:28 am Reply with quote
I registered specifically to say that anime fans spend all of their time talking about "the industry" no more often than fans of anything else. I am a hobby game geek, an anime/manga geek, a video game geek, and a fantasy/science fiction geek. I'm sort of a sports geek. I was a comic book geek for a long time and a role playing geek at one point, and have been in message boards for all of those hobbies.

And they all, continuously, talk more about the industry in question then they do about anything else.

EDIT: And also, happy holidays Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:38 am Reply with quote
I think ANN should start a fantasy league.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:40 am Reply with quote
Pretty sure anime fans talk more about the industry than most other fandoms because we're slightly more pathetic.

Nothing wrong with that though. Our patheticness controls nations!
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I played Yu Yu Hakusho: The Dark Tournament and it was one of the worst fighting games I've ever played. The story mode basically forced you to win (or lose...) fights exactly like they happened in the show. No, you can't KO or Ring Out that guy with the huge axe, if his health goes to zero it refills; you have to use a specific move when his health gets under a certain amount. Rolling Eyes The move sets were limited and dull, so playing with other people wasn't much fun either.

MokonaModoki wrote:
Pretty timely question about talk about "the industry" given the foolishness averaging a post every 4 minutes in the thread about the Arthur Smith letter today.


I've stopped even reading those. I read posts from select users in some of the previous ones but... ugh, that's a lot of posts with little of worth being said.
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I haven't seen an anime movie in the last few years that deserved to win it.


What about Millennium Actress or Innocence?

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and honestly if there's someone out there who saw both Tekkonkinkreet and Ratatouille and determined that Tekkonkinkreet was a better film, I can only question their taste.


Don't be too mean, man. Arias is a user on here now...

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(again, anyway - Paprika did deserve to win last year but due to the fact that it was a Sony release, it never stood a chance anyway).


Bull. They pushed for Triplets of Belleville, and it got nominated.
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MokonaModoki



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:57 am Reply with quote
HitokiriShadow wrote:
MokonaModoki wrote:
Pretty timely question about talk about "the industry" given the foolishness averaging a post every 4 minutes in the thread about the Arthur Smith letter today.


I've stopped even reading those. I read posts from select users in some of the previous ones but... ugh, that's a lot of posts with little of worth being said.


It's pretty awful, but I keep looking anyway. It's like watching a train wreck in very slow motion and wishing the damn thing would hurry up and explode.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:12 am Reply with quote
I guess with Geneon's recent issue and then we're now talking about the industry is declining, it doesn't surprise me that people would be concerned. Even Justin's letter had me thinking for a while.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:15 am Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:


What about Millennium Actress or Innocence?


I'm a little surprised that you think Innocence was seriously award-caliber. Millennium Actress was good, but it wasn't really that special. Kon has made better films before and since.

Seriously, Innocence? That movie was a self-indulgent, pretentious wreck.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:17 am Reply with quote
Cats and bunnies! F*** YEAH!

anyway...

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and honestly if there's someone out there who saw both Tekkonkinkreet and Ratatouille and determined that Tekkonkinkreet was a better film, I can only question their taste.


I haven't seen Ratatouille but did see Tekkonkinkreet which I thought was damn awesome. Your comparison really made me want to see that finally. I just need some clarification on what you said. Someone who like Tekkonkinkreet more that Ratatouille has bad taste, weird taste or no taste and just liking it because it's anime?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:28 am Reply with quote
[quote="HitokiriShadow"]I played Yu Yu Hakusho: The Dark Tournament and it was one of the worst fighting games I've ever played. The story mode basically forced you to win (or lose...) fights exactly like they happened in the show. No, you can't KO or Ring Out that guy with the huge axe, if his health goes to zero it refills; you have to use a specific move when his health gets under a certain amount. Rolling Eyes The move sets were limited and dull, so playing with other people wasn't much fun either.

I had that game and ended up selling it because it was just bad. The story was definitely ridiculous, and if it weren't for cutscenes from the show, I don't think it would've been worth the effort.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:34 am Reply with quote
Viga_of_stars wrote:


I haven't seen Ratatouille but did see Tekkonkinkreet which I thought was damn awesome. Your comparison really made me want to see that finally. I just need some clarification on what you said. Someone who like Tekkonkinkreet more that Ratatouille has bad taste, weird taste or no taste and just liking it because it's anime?


Ratatouille is, to me, one of the best films of the year, and probably the best film Pixar has ever made, which is saying a lot considering the sheer number of amazing films that studio has produced. Tekkonkinkreet is a sorta-OK adaptation of a pretty good comic. It's not about bad taste, but if you watched both and sincerely think TK is better, I do have to question your judgment. I really can't see how anyone would sincerely consider TK to be a better film on any level.
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Jared_Hussen



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:46 am Reply with quote
"Anyone saying there was a better anime film this year is delusional."

What about Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo ?

I loved Paprika as well, but I thought the mentioned movie was just as good, if not better.

EDIT: Also, concerning anime games, does Zone of the Enders count? That one DID blow me away...I still play both of them from time to time.
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I play a lot of video games and I noticed that anime video games seem to be kind of crappy more often than not. I love naruto and have played some of the games and they just dont seem very good or as good as the best American games. Is there a reason for that?


Yeah, basically mistake here he is making is equating games based off of licenced properties of anime to japanese games. It is games based off licenced properties that are generally not as good as other games. There are plenty games that fall into both categories from both North America and Japan.

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Seriously, Innocence? That movie was a self-indulgent, pretentious wreck.


We're taking about Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence I assume? I've gotta second what Zac said. The original was great because of its brilliant presentation and execution (among other things). Innocence was so pretentious, disjointed, just not well done at all.
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