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YagamiBlackstone255
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KAIBA of all people HATED War and war weapons. He took Kaiba Corp and made it a gaming company and made Kaiba Land a place where kids could have fun. If If Seto Kaiba Yu-Gi-Oh character has more moral fiber than this... We are in big trouble
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PilotPayback
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"is the high worth the pain of the comedown, every time i comedown (everytime i come)". - taska black
...and that's kinda the sentiment i share with stuff like this...apart from getting INTO the conversation, i just don't see the reward to be that desirable. anyway, i'll go, discussions like this aren't really my best field. |
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TheSeventhSense
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Stop issuing statements. Sue them. Every single artist and IP they’ve used together on a lawsuit. Drain his pockets so he has no money to escape judgment.
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Slizardo
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Kind of ironic to hear Yugi's English VA say to not make Yu-Gi-Oh political when Kazuki Takahashi tried to make it political when he made that art of Black Magician and Black Magician girl telling people to go vote because the administration was betraying Japan to foreign interests and other Sanseito talking points.. He ended up apologizing, but it was clear he wanted to make it political.
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TheRealMaria
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When people say to not make things political they just mean don't make it political in ways they disagree with. I'm sure plenty of people upset by these memes were just fine with artists drawing Batman and Optimus Prime killing police officers a couple months back. The Pokopia thing specifically was made using a public generator people made so they could make all kinds of memes with long before the White House did it. Nintendo's statement of not wanting to be involved with politics includes the people using it for their own stuff too, I hope people realize. Which is also why encouraging them to sue and go after fan content is dangerous since that means all the "trans rights are human rights" and "fudge ice" versions of the Pokopia title screen and he people who made and posted them are at risk too.
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Vent
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"Nintendo can't go fter the white house for using their ip in propaganda because then they'll have to go after twitter users for making memes" like those two things are in any way equivalent is an insane take
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FishLion
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Yeah, I can buy fair use for random people that want to share a somewhat political meme that has an anime character they think would agree.
But when you are an organization that accepts money to elect people using popular character imagery is more like stealing an image for your business than a random person that thinks superheroes would oppose law enforcement. It's the same way kids with lemonades stands may not have a permit. Sure they legally should have a permit to sell food, but slapping a kid with a fine or shuffling them down would just look like bullying the little guy. But if an actual restaurant refused to get a permit and said "what, that kid's lemonade stand is getting money without a permit!" then people would rightfully roast that business as irresponsible and clearly in the wrong for expecting to be treated like a child making pocket change. That's kind of how I feel about comparing meme to the US govt here. One is an entire massive organization with massive influence that is producing propaganda to achieve political power and one is a thing for the most part you share with others will exerting little influence. Also I think claiming font titles on a copyrighted under fair use is a little silly anyway. Fair use is a very specific set of circumstances and taking a custom made font and typing onto a background that was fully created by Nintendo would nor really be considered transformative in any significant way that grants people the right to use their content for these memes. Again, everyone is technically in the wrong, but obviously a political organization using your art to achieve their ends is clearly morally worse that whatever anyone else was doing. |
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Top Gun
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Seriously. I'd love to see the entire edifice of the federal government attempt to make a bullshit "fair use" claim. It'd be a guaranteed TACO. |
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zawa113
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I feel like companies should just never let people be able to insert words into their IPs into images ever again. Every single time, it goes badly.
I've seen plenty of cute and relevant uses of the Pokopia thing (mostly from Poketubers announcing they're gonna play it or people using it to say "Am I going to give in and get a Switch 2 for this game?"), but I seriously cannot name a single time this sort of PR thing has gone well |
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Egan Loo
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Other newly created user accounts have made strikingly similar, unfounded claims in this forum, so the same rebuttal to those claims also applies to this: In 2019, the phrase "売国" was used by other factions in Japanese politics, not necessarily the ones the poster(s) above are assuming: https://www.jcp.or.jp/akahata/aik19/2019-10-23/2019102301_05_1.html https://www.sangiin.go.jp/japanese/joho1/kousei/syuisyo/198/touh/t198005.htm Sanseito did not even exist when Kazuki Takahashi posted either the anti-war message or the art of Magicians urging people to vote. Takahashi's pacifist views were decidedly different from Sanseito's stances. |
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Zimmer
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And as usual the worse they'll get is a finger wag.
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TsukasaElkKite
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Props to TPCI and Dan Green for speaking out immediately.
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merr
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And I hope you realize there is a difference between what you’re describing and an official government account doing it. |
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TheSeventhSense
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I'd hardly call The White House a fan of Pokémon. Even the most frivolous of lawyers would say there's no gain in going after memes made by someone with 500 Twitter followers. There is a world of difference between the government using your IP and some random teenager making a fan game, and yet the latter has faced more scrutiny from Nintendo in the past. They clearly know how to defend their IP, and they're already on the shit list for suing over the tariffs, might as well go all the way. |
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Doubleclouder
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Japanese politicians actually dress up like anime and video game characters on occasion. Shinzo Abe famously cosplayed as Mario back in 2016. I don't think he got in trouble for that. Although even fan content has been taken down, and Nintendo themselves take down content in their games deemed political like when people upload custom content having political or pride flags on them in games like Kirby Air Riders or Super Smash Brothers. |
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