Forum - View topicThe Mike Toole Show - The Hard Cel
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DaisakuKusama
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Wonderful, great stuff, Mike!
That Chief Chujo cel autographed by Imagawa himself...NICE! Top it off with the in-depth video FTW! I spent three years as a digital cel painter working on three motion pictures, and everything you said is true. I learned more about animation as a cel painter than I'd learned before or since. We were all-digital, using Animo, which is what many a Japanese studio used for a time (Bandai's logo with the Easter Island heads was done entirely in Animo). Eventually, most anime studios switched to RETAS and now there are so many programs out there, it's impossible to keep up. Thank you for this. It really makes me appreciate it all over again. @evilgordo - Love your tastes! Is that your website? If so, I've been an admirer for a long time. Really nice work! |
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gwern
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You know, that actually explains a curious claim by Toshio Okada:
http://web.archive.org/web/20011031010130/http://www.j-pop.com/anime/archive/feature/04_gal_999/otaking8.html |
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StudioToledo
Posts: 847 Location: Toledo, U.S.A. |
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Starting off with what our pal Mike has to say...
You probably mean cellulose nitrate then. That was what they were using between switching to acetate sometime by the 1950's I think. Motion picture film in the theaters also used nitrate too. In collecting cels of this period, it's important to note the yellowing caused on them due to the composition. The real person we have to thank for getting the idea for cels in the first place instead of cutting around a drawing like so many others were trying in the 1910's is Earl Hurd, who partnered with J. Randolph Bray, shaped what hand-drawn cel animation was to be for the rest of the 20th century. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Hurd http://lambiek.net/artists/h/hurd_earl.htm http://www.a-website.org/persist/24.html
In the US during it's "golden age" of animation, this job was often handled by women (true story).
See how it happens. Studios simply didn't want it and often they were thrown out or reused (as was the case for many animation cels back in those days when they can pay someone like Chuck Jones to wash off Ub Iwerks' Flip the Frog cels). It wasn't until the later part of this century when you began to see that pack-rat hoarding mentality settle in for those of us so damn interesting in these doodles for many productions.
It's a shame there's not a market for just the drawings themselves since I would be more interesting in the drawings myself than cels personally. You be in this business as long as I am, you'll figure it out! I'm proud of what I've been able to collect over the years in my collection, though I hardly do much with it in flaunting it around so don't ask me what I've got. Something I should add as well is in how most anime cels are handled. While "inking" was a common to think back in the "Golden Age" in the US (which since the 60's transformed into using a xerox process to get the outlines on plastic), most anime cels are done through a thermographic process using a machine like this... The drawing is placed below the cel to be used and is feed through here to transfer the outlines to it. It's the same machine often used by schools for overhead transparencies for decades. What really kills it sometimes is getting an anime cel that appears to have very faint lines as often the pigments in the paint eat away at the outlines, often I get cels that appear to have those lines retouched as well. |
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