Forum - View topicBehind the scenes bootleg crackdown?
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beelzebozo
 Posts: 308 Location: Aurora, Colorado |
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According to our local bootlegger's website, they are admitting they are having trouble getting their HKs in. Seems they've had to change distributors 4 times in the last 6 months recently. This may mean that the companies are doing more in the background than I was giving them credit for.
Anyone have any other information? |
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deathbringer
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And why should we care if a bootlegger is having trouble getting their stuff?
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beelzebozo
Posts: 308 Location: Aurora, Colorado |
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Because: 1) I've been lamenting the fact it doesn't seem that the US anime companies are doing anything about bootlegs (only fansubs) and this looks hopeful. 2) There are two legitimate anime shops in town that are suffering because of this jerkwad. The sooner he is either closed down (or at least forced to play on the legitimate playing field without boots to ensure his profitability) the better. |
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cyrax777
 Posts: 1825 Location: the desert |
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see I told ya they would go after the HK makers and not the fansubbers. since its the boot dvd makers that are the threat.
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darkhunter
 Posts: 2992 Location: Los Angelas |
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Nobody said they were going after fansubber. I think you just misread a lot of the post about bootleg. People are pointing out that fansubber are still illegal no matter what if it's licensed or not. And I remember when a two group kept fansubbing Kaleido Star even though it was licensed, ADV ask two of the group to stop. Eventually they did, but other "groups" are still doing it regardless. So in a way they're trying to stop licensed material from being fansub. |
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cyrax777
Posts: 1825 Location: the desert |
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i know what the original news title was about but people were screaming about how it meant fansubbers and I said no there gonna go after the bootlegs
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Dilandau
 Posts: 525 Location: Tea House |
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That would be Japan not the US. The US only has authority over the English version/non-asia part of the world. Asia remains seperate, and thus, in Japan's sphere of authority. You are also correct that there were "official" fingers pointing at fansubbers in the same vein as bootleggers. Again, this was the Japanese Anime Industry, not the US. But the US companies (especially Bandai) will follow suit. "Additionally, it was recently mentioned at the Otakon "State of the Industry" panel that Japanese companies may start direct legal processes against North American fansubbers (more details on this will be presented in our final Otakon coverage later this week)." |
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Perfectsword
 Posts: 527 Location: Somewhere in NY |
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Do any of you mind telling me what the hell a fansub is? i've read about them but dont really get the concept.
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YUGI
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It's mostly for us older anime fans. We had a friend in japan record a tape. He sends it to us. We translate it and show all of our friends. This is the most basic before the internet was mainstream.
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Perfectsword
Posts: 527 Location: Somewhere in NY |
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o. that is old school |
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Tiresias
Posts: 353 Location: Illinois, USA |
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Nowadays its all done digitally. Someone in Japan records a raw feed, then distribute it to whatever groups they deal with. Then said groups translate it into English and subtitle it and release over the internet either through IRC or BitTorrent.
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kusanagi-sama
 Posts: 1723 Location: Wichita Falls, TX |
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Wow, that's amazing. A fansub is where someone in Japan records a show (mainly from their computer or a DVD recorder with a hard drive or TiVO), puts it up for download (on bittorrent mainly). A group of people download that file, translate it, time the audio to determine when to show the subs, typestyle the subs (font type, size and color), when that is all done, they use a program to put the subs onto the video and encode it (encoding process). They then do a quality check. When it passes QC, it is then made available for download so that others can watch it. |
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Ohoni
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Eh. I couldn't care less what happens to bootlegers. They generally put out a bad product, and are almost as bad as the "proffessional" companies (they get the edge because they're more affordable). Neither is on par with fansubbers for speed and reliability though.
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beelzebozo
Posts: 308 Location: Aurora, Colorado |
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Except when you buy from the professional companies, that money makes it's way back to Japan where they make more anime. Downloading fansubs doesn't do that, and bootlegers not only don't give the money back to the Japanese animators, but they make a profit off it as well. Also, given the prevalence of Region 1 rips on bootlegs, the American companies have just as much right to shut the bootleggers down as the Japanese companies. |
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Ohoni
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They really neeed a way to fix that. I'd love to give licensing money to Japanese companies when I watch fansubs, but I have no interest in paying off the American companies, since they take way too long, and cost way too much. |
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