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GiriOni



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:47 pm Reply with quote
CoreSignal wrote:
Shippoyasha wrote:
Considering the Zero Escape writer, I'm sure it'll have its share of crazy plot twists. I love the fanservice but I can see why it can irk many. It's even bolder with the pantyshots than some other fanservice shows out there.

I think this is the dilemma with the show. It's visually creative, the fanservice is gonna be hit-or-miss depending on your taste, but even "I go crazy for panties!" will eventually get old. I really hope this doesn't end up a one-note show about panties, hopefully there's something more going on here. The fact that the Zero Escape writer is writing this, is further blowing my mind. Maybe he's pulling a Masamune Shirow here, aka going from sci-fi to hentai.


What's really strange is that he is (somewhat) vocal on age in anime/games. He was complaining that people weren't as interested in Zero Escape because of the characters being older than that teen bracket. So unless he's done a complete 180, I expect that the usual Uchikoshi red-herrings and plot twists will get so outrageous that before long we're not sure if MC is really the MC.

Side note: Nandala Gandala... am I the only one who spat out what I was drinking when I heard that? 'Cause that wordplay... brilliant.
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Shippoyasha



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:52 am Reply with quote
Maybe it just shows that Uchikoshi is worried about the gaming demographics in that front. Also, despite how young some characters look in Punchline, they all seem to be right around 18 or so.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:42 am Reply with quote
Key wrote:
I would also point out that there are only three cases this season where a series with multiple reviews has an average score from our reviewers which is substantially out of line with what the general public's score is: Food Wars, Gunslinger Stratos, and Mikagura School Suite. (I am here defining "substantially" as "higher than our highest score and a full point or more above our average.") Only 3 out of 22 like that does not suggest a major problem to me, especially since I think all three of those shows could be put into the "entertaining despite not being very good" category.


What about shows whose public average scores are a full point or more below the professional average scores? Or are there none this season?

I'm actually surprised Plastic Memories is not one of them. Looking at the reaction some people have to that show on this thread, you'd think this was a 2-star or 1-star show.

justsomeaccount wrote:
If some people thought Punch-Line was to FLCL what Rolling Girls was to Kill la Kill, that's how I felt with this one to the other three shows I mentioned. I'll give it one or two episodes to see if I can dig it, but this didn't work for me. 2,5 / 5.


Sounds like Hiroyuki Imaishi has become quite the influential man.

dtm42 wrote:
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I think it's worth noting that it's a lot easier to marathon a manga than marathon an anime series. It took Jason fifty-six hours to marathon the Naruto manga. But to actually watch the Naruto anime would take over two hundred hours, and the show isn't even finished yet.


Not only that, but One Piece is even longer than Naruto. Naruto ended at Volume 72. One Piece is at Volume 80 and is nowhere near finished. It becomes more daunting with each passing week.

Zac wrote:
I have some writers for One Piece and Fairy Tail that I need to finish the interview process with, I've just been very very busy and it's a low priority. I'll have time in a week or two for it.


Awesome. As a One Piece fan, I'm looking forward to it. (I don't know as much about Fairy Tail, but I know that deserves some respect too.)

wyntre_rose wrote:
CrowLia wrote:

Also watched Shokugeki no Some ep.2 [expletive] pile of sexist garbage I don't event. Maybe I'm the only one who got this meanspirited "look at this haughty bitch, let our MC show her where she belongs with the power of his dick food, but she'll act like she didn't love MC's f*cking cooking 'coz she's a full'o'herself bitch, but don't worry, our MC will make her orfood-gasm so hard she'll have to submit to him" overall feeling from the episode's story, I just hated it. Dropped, dropped, dropped.


Thanks for this. I mean that sincerely. I was on the fence about watching this series after the reveiws on episode 1, but this decided me. Not. For. Me.


That's a shame. I remember reading the beginning of the manga, and I thought it was actually pretty fun, if empty calories. I liked seeing Soma triumph under severely adverse conditions and against tremendous egos.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:04 am Reply with quote
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That's a shame. I remember reading the beginning of the manga, and I thought it was actually pretty fun, if empty calories. I liked seeing Soma triumph under severely adverse conditions and against tremendous egos.


I usually love a story of an underestimated hero who bedazzles the world with his amazingness. My problem with this was that it had such a sexual framing my mind kept going straight to "Look at this cool bro making this bitch subjugate through the power of his manly sexuality". It felt hateful and nasty towards the girl involved
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:34 am Reply with quote
^ Unless I missed one, so far only females have eaten his cooking. All of them have had their foodgasms wreathed in shame, which gives off that misogynistic vibe you're feeling. I think I'll stick this out just to see if he ever feeds any males, and how that's going to be presented. If it's as tame as the men his father fed in this episode, then they've really got no excuse (I'm not sure they have one anyway).
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Hameyadea



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:38 am Reply with quote
Gina Szanboti wrote:
^ Unless I missed one, so far only females have eaten his cooking. All of them have had their foodgasms wreathed in shame, which gives off that misogynistic vibe you're feeling. I think I'll stick this out just to see if he ever feeds any males, and how that's going to be presented. If it's as tame as the men his father fed in this episode, then they've really got no excuse (I'm not sure they have one anyway).

In the first episode, the 3 goons that were with Busty Land Agent also ate Sōma's meal, and experienced Food-gasms as well. And it gets better
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CrowLia



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:56 am Reply with quote
But the 3 goons' foogasms were framed as comedic, while their boss's was 100% sexy. And the one that succumbs to Soma's cooking is their female boss. The gif you show has this guy having his foodgasm and enjoying it. The two female foodgasms were framed initially in shame. The female landshark eventually succumbs to the pleasure, but at the beginning she's resisting to it. This new girl is the same thing, she doesn't want to give in to him, but his godly sex cooking powers will make her do it. If you read too much into it, you might even say that the show is telling you "Look guys, even if a girl acts tough and rejects you, you must keep pushing because deep down she actually wants it real bad (especially if she's a haughty bitch)"
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:15 am Reply with quote
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The gif you show has this guy having his foodgasm and enjoying it.

And that makes all the difference for me. If the women were enthusiastically reveling in their foodgasms it wouldn't bother me so much. It's the "No, please don't" resistance that's distasteful.

Yeah, I kinda forgot about the henchmen. So this means I don't have to watch any more since I already have the answer. Yay! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:20 am Reply with quote
Let's not forget about the imagery of (NSFW) imaginary cherubin Somas literally sexually assaulting a naked Erina. Like no, seriously, I'm done with this trash
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Moroboshi-san



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:26 am Reply with quote
Well, to tell you the truth, the foodgasms are the only thing which keeps Shokugeki no Sōma going. It is almost like watching p*rn flick: characters are all despicable, plot incredibly boring or non-existent, so the only reason to watch are the orgastic details.

J.C.Staff clearly knows that as they pour production money to animate the gasms, they are all reasonably well done.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:42 am Reply with quote
That's disappointing to hear. I knew Soma was SJ's newest hit manga; I liked the character designs and I thought it would be a sports-like cooking competition anime. I'd heard there were some problems with the portrayal of female characters, mostly because, (vague spoilers, maybe, I haven't read the manga but just in case)spoiler[in truly WSJ fashion, they don't get to do much at all even if they're supposed to be super strong or something]. I hadn't heard it was an ecchi show and none of the key visuals seemed to suggest it was so it caught me off-guard when half of the first episode was spent with either foodgasms or tentacle rape. Pretty sad that so many Jump hits are still giving women such a poor /borderline offensive treatment, since it's a magazine with such a broad influence and appeal
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Hameyadea



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:55 am Reply with quote
A small interjection about Isla's last scene in Plastic Memories:

When she and Mizugaki Tsukasa are en route back to SAI, she breaks the flow of the scene and the dramatic atmosphere by saying that she "needs to go [to the bathroom]", and a lot of people have pointed out that out as a flawed attempt to get a few laughs.

But what if we look at it from another perspective? Isla is a veteran Giftia in the Deptment, meaning most likely that she's nearing the end of her Operational Time. If we compare it to humans, she's nearly a Senior Citizen. And as such, it is possible that her remark wasn't due to a failed comedic effect, but more in line with how elderly people will sometimes break the conversation with some absurd sentence. It is more obvious if someone saw an elderly person with a Dementia.

If that's true, then Isla's lines hide a bigger meaning that it initially lets on. Food for thought.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:11 am Reply with quote
leafy sea dragon wrote:
What about shows whose public average scores are a full point or more below the professional average scores? Or are there none this season?

I'm actually surprised Plastic Memories is not one of them. Looking at the reaction some people have to that show on this thread, you'd think this was a 2-star or 1-star show.

Nope, not a single show this season meets those criteria. And yeah, for all of the vocal complaining about PM, it's still firmly maintaining a 4.2 score average from the public.

As for Hameyadea's theory about the final scene, while I won't discount the possibility, even as someone who gave the show a top rating I still am inclined to believe that that was a comedy attempt.
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Hameyadea



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:25 am Reply with quote
I'm going through the Preview Guide reviews and I noticed something...
In Sound! Euphonium, Bamboo Dong's Review wrote:
But maybe it's guilt over the realization that she and her bandmates never took their program seriously enough to aim for the top, betraying people like Kumiko along the way. But regardless, it takes Kumiko an entire episode to decide to join the band.

I think you meant "betraying people like Kōsaka", since Kumiko was the one made the "traitorous" remark of questioning their school-band's abilities.

EDIT:
I just finished reading Zac Bertschy's Review and I noticed a similar thing:
In Sound! Euphonium, Zac Bertschy's Review wrote:
Her past appears to be following her, though; her new friends want to join the concert band, and are wooed inside by the lovely (and magic!) Asuka, but Hazuki has a serious reservation: it turns out Kousaka chose this school as well, and is already in the band. Also important: the band sucks. Big time.

The one who shared the troubled past with Kōsaka was Kumiko, not Hazuki.
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:11 am Reply with quote
CrowLia wrote:
That's disappointing to hear. I knew Soma was SJ's newest hit manga; I liked the character designs and I thought it would be a sports-like cooking competition anime.


That's basically how it has been recently in the manga. I'd imagine the foodgasms were supposed to be some sort of hook to get people to start reading, and Food Wars! as it is now is what the writer actually intended the series to be like.

That being said, it still doesn't really give female characters much story, or it gives them submissive roles. They're not being objectified as much as they're used to, with more guys getting objectified too, but there is still a gender imbalance in how the story prioritizes male characters.

Key wrote:
Nope, not a single show this season meets those criteria. And yeah, for all of the vocal complaining about PM, it's still firmly maintaining a 4.2 score average from the public.


I looked at the user average for Plastic Memories and was surprised it was that high. Not that I don't like the show, but there weren't that many comments to say something positive about the show compared to negative ones (besides the ones that were analyzing it, but I suppose that can count as positive).

That's the silent majority for you--they're a pretty satisfied bunch.
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