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Wrangler
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:28 am
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Well it will be interesting to see what anime going be like.
All the other animes done for Negi universe have always needed to be self-contained and had their own unique ending that the manga didn't have.
Are they going get 12 episodes out of this? The manga isn't doing so good, it stalled for couple months to become a monthly publication. So far it's ok, but i'm still not as caught up with it now that they keep mishmashing stuff and trying make it into a full on harem series like Negi was.
I liked the the action and the self-discovery part.
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matt78
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:56 am
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I wish this was a proper Negima anime with a better ending.
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maximilianjenus
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:06 am
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I don't like that the article spoils evangeline, since that revearl was like the best part of the manga, tho I admit it's a very early reveal.
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Mune
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:58 pm
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What I don't like about this announcement is that UQ Holder! is the sequel to the Negima manga. There has been no actual real anime adaptation release to date that would make UQ Holder! make sense. I think it is about time we get a real adaptation of the Negima manga to anime, kind of like how FMA did years ago with Brotherhood.
I'm still happy that they announced this anime though. I just hope it doesn't end up like Negima's anime treatment.
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Team Rocket Elite
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:37 pm
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UQ Holder recaps the relevant parts of Negima whenever it is something the reader needs to know. Also, the earlier parts of UQ Holder are light on Negima references and I doubt the anime will go on long enough to get past that.
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nargun
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:34 pm
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Mune wrote: | I'm still happy that they announced this anime though. I just hope it doesn't end up like Negima's anime treatment. |
The festival arc was a trainwreck in the manga: large planned segments -- zazie's sub-arc, for example -- had to be dropped, with significant consequences for the plotting later in the series. There's no way to make a complete and coherent adaption of Negima because the parts you need don't actually exist, even in the manga: best just smear some builder's bog over the cut lines and get on with it.
But that's OK: you don't have to include your entire backstory. Everything -- almost everything -- is in some form or another of context. I mean, technically the backstory of a western ties to the US civil war, which means it links to the us-mexico wars in the 1850s, which in turn links back to the collapse of the spanish empire in 1822, which goes back to the administrative problems of the spanish state in the napoleonic wars, which ties back to the french revolution, which ties back to the french state debts accumulated over the seven year's war.
But when you make a western you don't start with a sequence of Captain Cook mapping the St Lawrence river, do you? You start with the start of the story you want to tell.
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Yreva
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:36 pm
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Wrangler wrote: | Well it will be interesting to see what anime going be like.
All the other animes done for Negi universe have always needed to be self-contained and had their own unique ending that the manga didn't have.
Are they going get 12 episodes out of this? The manga isn't doing so good, it stalled for couple months to become a monthly publication. So far it's ok, but i'm still not as caught up with it now that they keep mishmashing stuff and trying make it into a full on harem series like Negi was.
I liked the the action and the self-discovery part. |
I too felt that it was slipping in the story department for a while before it went on break. The new chapters, however, are actually decent and putting the story back on track. I think the break and switch to monthly publication allowed him to collect himself and get his shit together.
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Zimba
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:21 am
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Cool!
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Zimba
Joined: 04 Aug 2016
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:22 am
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I can't wait for this.
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NapoleonDeCheese
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:50 pm
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UQ Holder... just kind of stumbles around oddly pulling and throwing characters and situations erratically, to see what will sell better next. This also was a problem with the later Negima, but Holder takes it to a whole new extreme, and it doesn't have the excuse of having a cast as large as Negima's.
The manga's main problem is it doesn't work as a Negima sequel, because the time skip is just too huge, too much of the original cast is dead or reduced to cameos and we simply lost too much of the necessary character development (show, don't tell! Storytelling 101!), but it doesn't stand on its own either because the series decided it wouldn't be about the UQ Holder organization (the TITLE organization!) anymore and instead would just focus on Touta's baggage with Negima's loose ends, with even the small group of UQ Holder buddies he keps around feling more like afterthoughts than anything else.
But Touta never met anyone from Negima other than Evangeline, and their relationship is creepy and unlikable because it starts as mother/son and suddenly tries to pass off as romantic. So, when Touta is told his links to Negima lore are so important, it rings false because he never met those people, when he meets someone like Mana it's done as quick and blandly as possible, and the emotion is never there. The series has no soul because it goes through the motions of being two things at once and failing at both.
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