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animefan473
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:17 am |
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Do you have a particular anime series you used to be obsessive about, but just seems silly now? When I was a kid I was a HUGE Voltron fan, now I laugh at it. I have the same thing with Inuyasha. I admit to getting caught up in the InuYasha craze and I took it very seriously for awhile, but now I find it amusing.
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DuelLadyS
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:50 am |
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Weiss Kreuz.
The first time through, I thought it was deep and dramatic with great outtakes on the discs, and bought drama CDs and artbooks and all that thing.
Then the friend who owned it gave it me to clear some shelf space, and I tried watching it again- and found it to be cliched, cheesy as hell, with horrid production values.
I've never again experienced such a stark difference between first and second impressions.
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animefan473
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:53 am |
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Actually, I've never seen that one, but judging from your post, I'm not inclined too.
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young98
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:59 am |
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once upon a time i enjoyed Mobile Fighter G Gundam, i loved the cool moves, the "deep" characters, "great" effects of the show, and when i grew up i rewatched the show because i rewatched Gundam Wing, which i didn't think was so bad, and i was sorely disappointed by G gundam. i couldn't believe i thought that animation was ever good, and what i thought were deep characters, were more shallow than puddles, and when they acted out of character, it was such a drastic change that it seemed more ridiculous than anything else, or they acted out of character because of brain washing, so...yeah
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Murasakisuishou
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:48 pm |
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Fullmetal Alchemist. When I started it it was because all of my friends were watching it and loved it, and for a while I was completely obsessed with the series just because most of my friends were too. I still think it's a good anime, even just based on the technical aspects, but after watching so many other far better series (GitS: SAC, Cowboy Bebop, Utena) I sort of wonder what I saw in FMA to begin with. It's worth watching, for sure, but I don't think that it's as 'deep' as all the fans say it is.
EDIT: Stupid typos >.>
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Keonyn
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:49 pm |
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| animefan473 wrote: | | Do you have a particular anime series you used to be obsessive about, but just seems silly now? When I was a kid I was a HUGE Voltron fan, now I laugh at it. I have the same thing with Inuyasha. I admit to getting caught up in the InuYasha craze and I took it very seriously for awhile, but now I find it amusing. |
But why don't you take it seriously anymore and why did you then?
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Nomeru
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:54 pm |
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dragonball z was roughly the first anime I really got into, being 6 or so when it came out. I wouldnt nessesaraly say I obsessed over it, but its kinda the closest thing. I remember never wanting to miss an episode, it was like the greatest thing in the world. I was really sad when it ended (but thank god it did finally end really). Of course, now I know how its all stretched and filler, just standing around, and its sad. I probably wasnt the only one around my age at least for dbz
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Xanas
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:00 pm |
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I used to think Tenchi Muyo better than I do now. After seeing a lot of better dubs (as a dub fan) I found it to get pretty annoying really. That's not to say I hate the show by any standards now but there are more VA's that didn't annoy me in the past that do now.
As far as series others have listed here, the only one I watched was Fullmetal Alchemist and I'll have to disagree with those comments immensely. I burned myself out on it a bit during it's run but on the merits I don't think it's weaker than Cowboy Bebop or Ghost in the Shell at all. It has great music, good animation, and a very solid story that plays on emotions very well. I also think it's got one of the best voice casts for the dub (though this could easily be said for GOTS and Cowboy Bebop as well).
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Jih2
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:24 pm |
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Dragon Ball Z, yeah, I used to think it was for older audiences when I was 10-12. I then saw Jin-Roh, AKIRA, volume 1 of Trigun and volume 1 of Kenshin. Wow, things began to fall apart between me and DBZ. I know I'm still going to buy the box sets that are being released now but I know that the series is slow as anything and excessively dramatic.
Evangelion, not that it isn't serious some of the time. I used to be a complete fanboy and compare everything to the "deep" complexities within Eva about 3 years ago but I now have no problem making fun of the characters, the plot, lack of structure and other short falls of the series.
I used to take Samurai Jack seriously too. Wow, luckily that series doesn't take itself too seriously.
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Murasakisuishou
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:28 pm |
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| Xanas wrote: | |
As far as series others have listed here, the only one I watched was Fullmetal Alchemist and I'll have to disagree with those comments immensely. I burned myself out on it a bit during it's run but on the merits I don't think it's weaker than Cowboy Bebop or Ghost in the Shell at all. It has great music, good animation, and a very solid story that plays on emotions very well. |
I'm not entirely sure you can disagree with my personal reasons for not being as devoted a fan of a series as I was several months ago, but okay:
I guess my biggest problem with FMA is that I completely loathe about half of the main characters. Ed is annoying and far too full of himself, and if I don't like the main character of a series, I obviously won't be able to feel sympathy for them when they're in trouble. Winry could have been done away with altogether; sometimes when she got all whimpery I just wanted to grab her by the ponytail and shove her head in a meat grinder.
Also, it has no rewatch value (for me) after the third or fourth run. The emotional scenes are no longer emotional, the attempts at humor aren't funny anymore (except episodes 13 and 37 - I love Mustang and his crew), and there are so many draggy bits that I was almost tempted to skip entire volumes the last time I watched. Once again, though, I think this comes down to the fact that I can't stand Ed.
Again, I'm not saying that FMA is horrible or anything; the animation is spectacular, and while I think the musical score goes a bit overboard in some places, it's generally apropriate for whatever's going on. Sure, the plot is interesting the first couple times through (when you're picking up things you missed before, etc.), but to me a really good anime is one that you can pick up on a rainy day and watch through without stopping, even if you've seen it a dozen times before, and still laugh, cry, and gasp in all the same places. FMA just doesn't do that for me anymore.
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Nomeru
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:35 pm |
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| Jih2 wrote: | | Evangelion, not that it isn't serious some of the time. I used to be a complete fanboy and compare everything to the "deep" complexities within Eva about 3 years ago but I now have no problem making fun of the characters, the plot, lack of structure and other short falls of the series. |
Ah, you reminded me of rahxephon. I'm not gunna get into a debate about what one's better, because its all a matter of opinion. I became a little obsessed by rahxephon, and how well developed the plot was. I really got into the characters too. While it is still one of my favorates, I've backed off from it, though I still really like how well it was done compared to some others I've seen.
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animefan473
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:47 pm |
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| Keonyn wrote: | | animefan473 wrote: | | Do you have a particular anime series you used to be obsessive about, but just seems silly now? When I was a kid I was a HUGE Voltron fan, now I laugh at it. I have the same thing with Inuyasha. I admit to getting caught up in the InuYasha craze and I took it very seriously for awhile, but now I find it amusing. |
But why don't you take it seriously anymore and why did you then? |
Just time and distance. InuYasha was one of the first shows I saw when I started to really get into anime. I thought it was really cool at the time, but since thenI've seen alot of anime, and alot that's better.
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Xanas
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:16 pm |
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I'm not entirely sure you can disagree with my personal reasons
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I'm a disagreeable type. I am not intending to insult your opinion but rather questioning your reasons for it in my own way
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I guess my biggest problem with FMA is that I completely loathe about half of the main characters.
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I can understand that, I don't usually get along too well with series where I don't like the main characters either.
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Also, it has no rewatch value (for me) after the third or fourth run.
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No disagreement here, although I don't feel that an anime is necessarily worse because it can't be rewatched. I think there are some things that have a lot of real value to them that you only watch once or twice. Some anime are more serious or story driven and some are more episodic and/or comedic. The latter tends to be more rewatchable but it's not necessarily better. I think FMA has a lot of a mixture of elements (comedy/drama/etc) but because it is so story driven I could see how the loss of suspense could hurt the enjoyment of it. You pointed out GOTS and Cowboy Bebop and both of those have a mix of story and episodic episodes. That's a point I think that makes them more rewatchable but I think it lessened the impact of some of the events and the ending.
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Porcupine
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:16 pm |
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| Jih2 wrote: | | Dragon Ball Z...the series is slow as anything and excessively dramatic.
Evangelion... I used to be a complete fanboy and compare everything to the "deep" complexities within Eva about 3 years ago but I now have no problem making fun of the characters, the plot, lack of structure and other short falls of the series. | I can proudly say that even though I watched and studied Evangelion carefully when it was new, after I was done I realized the show for the trash it truly was, and openly denounced it for all its shortcomings and things that could not be forgiven. Stick figures in the last several episodes, come on. I don't care what Hideaki Anno says. He's a bad director and sometimes kind of an idiot. Standing in the elevator for 5 minutes straight unmoving, come on. Don't make excuses, you ran out of budget and ended up with the biggest anime disaster of all-time.
DBZ is a good series, it's just that the anime version was not made too well. It mainly had pacing issues, way too many episodes. There should have been half as many if not a third as many, for the amount of manga volumes that existed. Other than that though, even the anime version was not too bad. There have been way worse anime conversions out there...
G Gundam is a pretty good anime series I think. Not sure why anyone would ever consider it a meaningful story, but it's a fairly well-made, mindless, entertaining show...and nothing's wrong with that. It's old so it's not as good as some of the mindless entertaining animes today, but they still did a good job on it in my opinion. G Gundam is very different from the other Gundam series though, so don't expect a typical Gundam show when you watch it.
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Veoryn87
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:33 pm |
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I took Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni (When They Cry) seriously when I watched it, but after I finished it I loved making fun of the character designs and the situations in the show. I still enjoy it, I just probably won't be able to take it as seriously anymore.
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