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NEWS: 2nd Gundam Hathaway Film Highlights Noa's Past & Present in New Promo Video

Kind of glossing over him killing Chan, huh?

Though I think the currently-ongoing CCA manga is based on Beltochika’s Children?

I think that’s because the original novelization of Hathaway’s Flash follows the events of the Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack - Beltorchika's Children novel where Chan didn’t exist as a character.

Given how much we’ve kind of moved into an era where Gundam localizations in print are actually a thing now, and there’s a whole industry of light novels popping off, it seems kinda weird there haven’t been any official releases of any of Tomino’s novels yet.

Though I think the currently-ongoing CCA manga is based on Beltochika’s Children?

Early on when the first anime movie was in theaters, the staff said that the Unicorn connection will be referenced in the upcoming movies, but this is one of those things that may or may not happen as these things go. They won't do anything that outright contradicts the Char's Counterattack movie or Unicorn at the very least.

Uh... where did you hear that? About Unicorn I mean. Because everything said thus far has been the opposite.

Deacon Blues wrote:

Uh... where did you hear that? About Unicorn I mean. Because everything said thus far has been the opposite.

Staff interview from when the first movie was out. Can no longer locate it.

Fluwm wrote:

Given how much we’ve kind of moved into an era where Gundam localizations in print are actually a thing now, and there’s a whole industry of light novels popping off, it seems kinda weird there haven’t been any official releases of any of Tomino’s novels yet.

Not to be negative, but uh... Gundam localizations still aren't a thing now. It's nowhere near what it used to be in the early 2000s

Honestly the UC has kind of been written in to a corner w/ the Zeon stuff. They've simply added in too many Zeon stories that it becomes harder and harder for that transition to Zeon not existing at all to really be believable. Especially with Unicorn showing us yet more Zeon remnant forces from the OYW chilling on Earth in the 0090s.

I think you misunderstood me. I meant, rather, that they exist at all, whereas for a very long time we had nothing. Like even getting The Origin localized into English was a surprise, and that's pretty much the highest-profile Gundam manga there is.

I'd also question the implication that things were especially good for Gundam in the early 2000s. Obviously it's not like we were starving for Gundam media, with the MSG Trilogy and Ecole du Ciel, but pretty much everything else was cheap tie-in manga for Seed or 00. Or at least that's my memory of that era.

The final hurrah happens circa F91 anyway, and that was from back when the movie was being made, so all these little adventures along the way aren't really all that unbelievable.

That still doesn't make it "a thing."

"High profile" is subjective, too at this point.... So no, it wasn't a "cheap tie-in." They actually knew what the hell they were doing back then, licensing material in tandem with anime titles that were being localized.

You're referring to the Mars Zeon thing, right? I kinda feel like that doesn't really affect things much because it's both not animated, and not (to my knowledge) set in the "Earth Sphere."

I dunno, dude. I feel like simply existing is literally the only requirement for something to be "a thing." I'm not really sure why you're upset with that framing? I'd get it if I'd used an adjective or something... but we're clearly still getting Gundam side-media localized into English -- hell, we just got an announcement for that G-Witch light novel last week! Plus multiple series (like the aforementioned CCA manga) with ongoing English-language publications. It is very much a thing that exists.

I've got most English-language Gundam manga sitting on a shelf, or in a box somewhere. The Gundam Wing manga was, what, only 3 volumes long? And barely coherent; to my memory, the best part about it were the little crossover 4komas at the end.

I apologize if you take offense to my characterization of it (or the Seed or 00 manga) as "cheap," but having read the books that's really the only way I can look at them. The Seed Astray and 00letter spinoffs were a little more interesting as they, at least, tried to tell unique side-stories, but were so short that they they couldn't really tell those stories well.

And as you yourself indicated, they were tie-in media, meant to promote their attendant anime series, rather than stand alone purely on their own.

Not upset, but you're acting like it's this hip new fad or something that everyone is into.

Oh, and I did look up that (Tokita Koichi) Gundam Wing manga, and on Wikipedia they only list three volumes, so... are you talking about something else? There are a few other tie-in works, like Blind Target or Battlefield of Pacifists, but they're all single-volume affairs.