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Triltaison
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 5:36 am |
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Oo... this is now at the top of my list for most anticipated work this year.
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EmeraldSaucer
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 5:58 am |
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This looks nice and it's good to see Kuroyanagi back after Bakuten, shame every single Cygames announcement from now on will have the lingering question of how much genAI will be used in the process
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Sinxi and heylog
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 6:51 am |
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The lingering question of GenAI is a pretty useless question to wonder about anytime they announce an anime
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donhumberto
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 8:05 am |
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Some truly beautiful animation in this PV Definitely keeping a close eye on this one...
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Kougeru
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 11:54 am |
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Was excited until I saw Cygames... would've been excited before a few weeks ago. That said, they JUST founded the AI subsidiary and are hiring so I don't expect anything this year to have GenAI trash
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EmeraldSaucer
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:22 pm |
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| Sinxi and heylog wrote: | | The lingering question of GenAI is a pretty useless question to wonder about anytime they announce an anime |
Why? We may never know, since I doubt you'll have a satisfactory and non-embarrassing answer as to why people shouldn't be concerned about the company that just established an AI division
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Sinxi and heylog
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 6:08 pm |
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I mean, for one thing cyberagent have had an AI subsidiary thing going for about 2 yrs or maybe longer and it was not in any anime production they were involved in and nobody knew about it cause it did not touch anime production. And 2 being what the project looks like and the staff behind it (like the drama that happened around the seikrio anime) are very unlinkely to use gen AI
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Nate148
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 7:02 pm |
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good god the fear mongering here I get the issue but please chill.
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EmeraldSaucer
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 7:34 pm |
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| Sinxi and heylog wrote: | | I mean, for one thing cyberagent have had an AI subsidiary thing going for about 2 yrs or maybe longer and it was not in any anime production they were involved in and nobody knew about it cause it did not touch anime production. And 2 being what the project looks like and the staff behind it (like the drama that happened around the seikrio anime) are very unlinkely to use gen AI |
The Cygames AI Studio was founded in December, you are using a completely different thing from their parent company that has absolutely no bearing on what's being talked about. And the staff involved in irrelevant, because the point is that Cygames have shot themselves in the foot and cast a pale of doubt over the entire output of CygamesPictures from this point on, even from talented animators doing good work without the use of AI - because they've shown their willingness to use it from an executive level, and there's no reason to take them at their word that they'll tell people when they're doing so. It's a completely unforced error and people are fair to be suspicious
Also none of that actually explains your initial statement on people's skepticism being "useless" btw, unless you meant this follow-up to mean that because it's "unlikely" to be genAI in this one instance people should never question anything in the future regarding Cygames
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Sinxi and heylog
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 8:19 pm |
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| Nate148 wrote: | | good god the fear mongering here I get the issue but please chill. |
The dooming must CONTINUE!!!!
| EmeraldSaucer wrote: | | The Cygames AI Studio was founded in December, you are using a completely different thing from their parent company that has absolutely no bearing on what's being talked about. And the staff involved in irrelevant, because the point is that Cygames have shot themselves in the foot and cast a pale of doubt over the entire output of CygamesPictures from this point on, even from talented animators doing good work without the use of AI - because they've shown their willingness to use it from an executive level, and there's no reason to take them at their word that they'll tell people when they're doing so. It's a completely unforced error and people are fair to be suspicious |
I mentioned cyberagent for 2 reasons, 1. They are parent company of cygames, and 2 being they have been in anime productions, and those productions dont use AI, even in their own projects that they heavily invest in, so you CAN use it at an executive level, and not let it touch anime production, its possible.
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harminia
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 9:43 pm |
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I can understand the general suspicion of CyGames as a whole after the recent Ai thing, but I'm pretty sure that AI section was only for games, so it shouldn't be involved in the anime side.
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EmeraldSaucer
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 9:57 pm |
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| Sinxi and heylog wrote: | | I mentioned cyberagent for 2 reasons, 1. They are parent company of cygames, and 2 being they have been in anime productions, and those productions dont use AI, even in their own projects that they heavily invest in, so you CAN use it at an executive level, and not let it touch anime production, its possible. |
Ok that addresses literally nothing that has been said about Cygames' own AI studio (that isn't limited to games, considering CyberAgent's own research into AI in anime production and how that feeds into the creation of this new studio) or the ways in which people are justified in being skeptical, you're just off in your own world talking about entirely unrelated things and not furthering your stance on people questioning being "useless" whatsoever lol
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Sinxi and heylog
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 10:13 pm |
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What I'm trying to say is that AI can have connection with cygames and cyberagent (interms of using AI for adverts, and other executive things) and still not touch anime or even the games. and by what i mean by "useless" is that they are not going the "put AI in anime route" or "put AI in the game route," so speculating if AI is in anything they animate is useless
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EmeraldSaucer
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2026 1:48 am |
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| Sinxi and heylog wrote: | | What I'm trying to say is that AI can have connection with cygames and cyberagent (interms of using AI for adverts, and other executive things) and still not touch anime or even the games. and by what i mean by "useless" is that they are not going the "put AI in anime route" or "put AI in the game route," so speculating if AI is in anything they animate is useless |
And not only does the evidence of them researching AI and creating a whole new subdivision not only not support that notion, it actively discounts it. Which is what your whole stance on "they haven't done anything" seems to miss: they have done something, they just made a whole new sector of their business dedicated to its creation moving forward. And acting like this is somehow only going to exist within the realm of advertising (based on nothing but blind faith in a corporation) is pure gullibility. Unless you own stock in CyberAgent and have something to monetarily gain from their investiture in AI, there's no reason to act this naïve about it lmao
Speculating on them using genAI in the process of creating anime is not only useful but necessary to keep them in check in the few ways consumers are able to (even if it only results in half-hearted non-apologies like Cygames just issued over this very topic). It's not ideal, but Cygames are the ones who have poisoned the well by choosing to enter into this space, not the people who are stuck left wondering how they will inevitably try to exploit AI as a cost-cutting measure like every other company trying and failing to do so across various sectors
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2026 2:04 pm |
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I’m also disappointed in Cygames’ decision but we can’t just assume everything they work on has AI in it without actual evidence and there’s been plenty of instances where sleuthers who think they’re pros at spotting AI have harassed and attacked animators, game devs, and artists over false allegations. There are still real animators working on this and they don’t deserve to be thrown under the bus because of the decisions of corporate higher up hacks. It’s fine to just decide to not support any future Cygames works but you just can’t claim things are AI without evidence because that’s not how things work.
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