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Apollo-kun
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NOOOO! Fire Investigator Nanase is CMX-published! This isn't fair! They can't just abandon it! NOOOOO!
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Mimi The Freak
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I know no one else is gonna say this, but...now where am I supposed to get the second volume of Time Guardian?
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lys
Encyclopedia Editor
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Amazon? RightStuf? Etc? It appears to still be in print—was released June 2007. |
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Mimi The Freak
Posts: 16 Location: USA |
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Point taken...
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stevek504
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March on Earth was good - I thought. I bought Chikyu Misakist, finishing The Name of the Flower, and was just on their web site last week looking for my next title...
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SamusekTDS
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Wait... I bought some of those back then - I don't even think they have THOSE anymore.... Why? Shin-chan why??? --- Sam. |
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
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How many times has Megtokyo changed publishing label now? ^^;
I have two copies of the first volume published by Iron Cat and someone else.. IIRC it has been through Dark Horse as well as DC/CMX. |
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jr240483
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Your kidding right. I and from the posts i have read peole liked Emma. And i and some users here DEFINATELY cared for Tenjo Tenge. Edited or not. Sure it got heat for those editing but they had to to prevent the manga from being banned in the US cause the later volumes i read were conterversial in a half shelf which was why the anime series never continued. Unfortunately they never completed it and i have yet to read them all. Hopefully it'll get rescued. Maybe Tokyopop would resuce TT cause they have no problem with extremely mature manga after reading their VERY MA titles like Kannazuki no Miko (which is very , very different from the anime,) Battle Vixens (Ikkitousen),Tokko,Battle Athletes end especially Battle Royale which definately pushed some serious buttons. |
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littlegreenwolf
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You're kidding right? This is DC, one of the oldest comic publishers in the US of A. Half their stuff in their Vertical imprint is more controversial than all of Tenjo Tenge put together, and they are no strangers at all to scantly clad women. They only edited so they could lower the age rating enough to "appeal" to a larger niche. In the end it completely backfired with what should have been one of their best sellers, and it seems they never fully recovered from it. Only titles I every bought from them would be Emma, Shirley, and Gals. I WOULD have bought Tengo Tenge, all of it, but when I heard about the edits I decided I rather not. I probably would have gotten around eventually to their other shoujo titles, but with all the manga on the market those were low on my list of things to buy. It'll be sad if another company rescues Tenjo Tenge and their first release of it makes the NYT best sellers list.
You lie. P.L.A.I.N. Janes - Cecil Castellucci. Female Burnout - Rebecca Donner and Inaki Miranda. Female. Emiko Superstar - Mariko Tamaki. Female. Token - Alisa Kwitney and Joelle Jones. Female. Quit trying to pose made up crap on the net as fact. You're going to create someone as misguided as you.
Again, you continue to show how little you understand about, well, everything. |
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Agent355
 Posts: 5113 Location: Crackberry in hand, thumbs at the ready... |
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GATSU, I was being sarcastic. I am very, very angry at DC. I was upset when they axed Minx because I felt they never really gave it a chance. I've read some Minx stuff, and it was certainly a mixed bag, but it definately had potential.
Killing CMX seems to me a message from DC that they don't care about the female consumer very much. They never marketed CMX--outside of Comic-Con, where have they been? Emma was a hit because of word-of-mouth (maybe not a bestseller, but Emma seemed to be their most well known title, with a licensed anime adaptation to boot!) I don't think I've ever seen an ad for Emma outside of the back of a CMX title. I'm sick of the "Shojo never sells anyway" excuse. Seen the NYT Graphic Books best seller list lately? Black Bird and Vampire Knight are right there alongside Naruto and Bleach. Twilight is hogging the top spot in the hardcovers catagory. I'd bet that Black Butler will be on the list soon. Fruits Basket has been on the list, and it is known as Tokyopop's flagship, possibly most profitable title. Shojo sells. DC can't be bothered to let people know that they've published shojo (and some shonen and seinen) that could sell. And now one of my favorite titles of all, a title I got a non-manga reading friend hooked on, a title that is probably not being scanulated anywhere, will no longer be published. I mourn for Apothecarius Argentum, and I rage at DC for killing its American release. |
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GATSU
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jr: If Viz needs the older reader cash injection enough, it might use its Shueisha privileges to rescue TT themselves. But it might not be worth it, anyway, considering even Air Gear's doing badly enough to be published in omnibus format.
greenwolf:
So Minx was a totally awesome name?  Oh, you mean the credits. Wikipedia listed mostly male names for that line, so no I didn't lie. In fact, you even omitted male co-creators on at least two of those titles. Also, as I recall, the stories with the male artists got the most promotion.
Yes, I totally don't get that most U.S. manga buyers don't give a f**k about OH! Great here, because if they did, then Air Gear would still be sold in single manga volumes, and ADV and Geneon would still exist. You're right. If only TT would be uncut, then the people who fap to it on scantalation sites would so go out and buy it, because the "story" is what's important to them, and not being able to see badly-drawn porn without having to learn Japanese. Hell, on AOD, they even brag about boycotting all of CMX, just because of the TenTen thing. Which probably means that they were only gonna "buy"(more like tear off the plastic and look at the pics, then leave it on the shelf) it and nothing else, anyway, since they clearly weren't willing to give CMX a chance otherwise. Agent: I agree that shojo still sells. The problem is that most of it has been bungled by companies which don't do a better job of reaching out to their target audience. For example, compare Kodocha and Full Moon to Hannah Monatana. Same effing wish-fulfillment gimmick, but Der Mouse succeeded where Viz and FUNi failed. Why? Because it targeted female viewers and made them feel like they, too, could be the next big thing. Meanwhile, what do FUNi and Viz do with their music-themed properties? Promote 'em as low-key comedies which don't explain a damn thing about why you should watch 'em. Hell, as well as VK does for Viz, the publisher clearly missed out on the whole Twilight phenomenon by not giving Shojo Beat more exposure, such as theatrical advertisements wherever the films played. |
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littlegreenwolf
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Whether or not some of the comics with male artist got more promotion, the fact that they were written by females contradicts your original statement. P.L.A.I.N. Janes was one of their most successful books, written by a woman, recieved the most promotion, and even got a sequel book. I never really had much of an opinion about the name Minx. It however didn't sway me from buying their books.
You just suggested Kodocha is the same as Full Moon and Hannah Montana. Anyone who thinks Kodocha is some wish fulfillment manga about being a singing idol obviously has never watched/read Kodocha. |
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Teriyaki Terrier
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Sadly, since the author of Shin Chan passed away, I don't think there would have ever been a ending to the manga/anime series. So, even if CMX had completed most the manga series, it would still be incomplete since the author is gone. Though, I think the anime is much better, especially the English audio. The fact Chris Sabat is involved in this series is worth the purchase alone though. |
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Agent355
Posts: 5113 Location: Crackberry in hand, thumbs at the ready... |
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GATSU, first of all, Shojo manga and shojo anime are different kettles of fish. Shojo manga sells and has been selling since it was first brought over to America. Fushigi Yugi, Please Save My Earth and Fruits Basket are considered "classics" among manga afficionados.
The way I see it, it's simply a supply and demand situation. Lots of young girls love reading comics--I remember Archie binges with my sister and my friends growing up--but once you grow out of Archie comics, there is nothing in the market tailored to you. Marvel and DC has been ignoring young women for decades, comic book stores may as well be boy's clubs with a "no girls allowed" sign on the door. Sure, I went in anyway, but I rarely saw another person with more than one X-chromosone inside (didn't care that much at the time, so long as I could get a Spider-Man fix). Then along came shojo manga from Japan, and suddenly all the girls who like sequential art had something to read. Girls today read shojo and shonen comics, and I've seen it quoted (I have to look up the source) that manga consumers in the United States are over 50% female. Some of the most prolific manga bloggers-Brigid Alverson, Deb Aoki, et al, are women. More American women today are drawing original comics as well-Hope Larsen, Reina T., Svetlana Chmakova. It's a phenomenon. I don't know why shojo anime doesn't follow suit, and I'm aware that shonen titles still get more sales-possibly because they appeal to boys and girls in equal measure. But to just say-as some in this forum have- that "shojo doesn't sell" is to ignore the fact that the "manga revolution" was built on shojo titles, and that those same shojo titles have been more popular in general than hard-core shonen (Go Nagai, anyone?) ever were. We can only speculate on what DC could have done to promote their mostly-shojo CMX line-up. It's hard to market manga, sure. But showing up at more cons? Building an internet presence complete with fan interaction, contests and give-aways? Publshing a magazine or even just a sampler with chapters from a few of their manga and giving that out at cons? Fighting Boarders and Barnes and Noble for better shelf placement at the least--anything but just letting their line die a sad death with beloved titles left dangling would have been better than nothing. 
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GATSU
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wolf:
My original statement was they hired male writers, and according to wikipedia, they did. Not all the time, but it was generally the case. And as for Janes, it says only the first volume was written by a woman.
Because being a big star with love interests has nothing to do with wish-fulfillment. Teriyaki: Yeah, they lucked out there, ironically. Agent: Hell, I'm a dude, and even I couldn't stand that Boys Club mentality, either. Not wwhen it's willing to go so far as embrace mediocre tripe like Kick-Ass and Gen 13. |
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