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Exaar



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:31 am Reply with quote
Ok, full of spoilers: I put it in the title, so not gonna tag 'em.

So, I got the last two Gilgamesh DVDs for Christmas and I just finished watching the series this weekend. I really liked it overall, and I understood MOST of the ending, but I just wanted to see if anyone had any additional insight into the very last scenes.

Now, obviously, everyone dies, the world is destroyed, TEAR intends to re-make a new human race from Kiyoko in her cocoon. But when Kiyoko wakes up and TEAR approaches her, Kiyoko stabs her in the brain with her tuning fork and kils her. Then, after the credits, we see Kiyoko with the bloody turning fork, and she gets a maniacal grin on her face.

My two possible interpretations of this are:

1) Its trying to say that humanity is flawed and violent and cannot be 'improved', even through such extreme measures. The 'new race' that TEAR bred turned out to be as violent and crazy as the old one, and she paid for her hubris in trying to play god with her life.

2) Kiyoko retained her memories and realized that TEAR had killed Tatsuya, and so killed TEAR out of revenge for her brother and the entire world.

Niether of those explanations /really/ seems all that good, though. I mean, I guess both of them work, but both seem flawed. Does anyone else have any other possibilities/actual knowledge of what these final scenes are meant to convey?
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Deltakiral



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:35 pm Reply with quote
Hi there as far as Gilgamesh's ending here my personal thought from a previous thread.
Spoiler to the end.
spoiler[I can't believe everyone was killed in such an gruesome way. I mean watching the gilgamesh eat away at people, watching Gilgamesh's being destroyed this was a war. As for the actual ending itself, I think that is the end of Mankind and now the start of a new evolution chain. I mean the only person left at end is Kiyoko, who is now carrying child to the new evolutionary chain of being. One things that I really did like is at the very end after the end credits you see a single artwork. That of a tuning fork, and I feel this to be supporting to the New being theory. I mean a tuning fork so that a breed of man can be nuture with a tuning fork to keep it on key.]

Here that other thread if you want to know other people thoughts.

Delta
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Exaar



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:42 pm Reply with quote
Yes, but that's all obvious. Everyone dies, and TEAR intends to use Kiyoko as the seed of a new human race.

However, Kiyoko KILLS tear with the Turning Fork, and then grins crazily, and thats the end of the series. Obviously, despite the fact that Gilgamesh/TEAR won the battle, things did not work out as they planned.

I was just wondering if anyone had any clues to the underlying meaning of that last scene, other than what I've already expressed: That humanity cannot be tamed, and that playing god only leads to disaster.
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ByronBurlapnen



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:43 pm Reply with quote
We are supposed to die!
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Unicorn_Blade



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:48 am Reply with quote
Exaar wrote:
Yes, but that's all obvious. Everyone dies, and TEAR intends to use Kiyoko as the seed of a new human race.

However, Kiyoko KILLS tear with the Turning Fork, and then grins crazily, and thats the end of the series. Obviously, despite the fact that Gilgamesh/TEAR won the battle, things did not work out as they planned.

I was just wondering if anyone had any clues to the underlying meaning of that last scene, other than what I've already expressed: That humanity cannot be tamed, and that playing god only leads to disaster.


I thought it was a really good ending, that I did not expect from a series that did not seem particularly amazing.

My interpretation of it was that you cant create a new kind having hatred as a base for it. After all, tear was corrupted, she was the sparkle that pushed Madoka to come up with the plan to wipe out humanity. And remember, tear was born out of jealousy and lots of other not very nice feelings. So you can say, Kioko's child, who came to being thanks to negative emotions, had to be also corrupted. therefore, the new kind would not be any better than corrupted humanity.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:42 am Reply with quote
I've always assumed that:

Exaar wrote:
1) Its trying to say that humanity is flawed and violent and cannot be 'improved', even through such extreme measures. The 'new race' that TEAR bred turned out to be as violent and crazy as the old one, and she paid for her hubris in trying to play god with her life.


...was in effect. I love that ending. It's so wonderfully nihilistic, cynical and pitch black. Probably one of the darkest endings I've ever encountered. I had never considered the possibility of 2) but I don't think it can be ruled out. It's just that its one of those things that can never be "proven" by the show itself. It's not an unreasonable assumption, though.
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