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Fishus007
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This has got to be the only anime I have ever watched where I was confused to no end.
I got the 1st half of the series where Ayato leaves T-J and comes to the rest of Earth. But then the ending messed me all up. What happened in the last 2 discs? He merges with Rah-X and then kills half of his friends? Whats with the old guy who thinks he's god? The ending where Haruka is with some guy who could be Ayato, but looks like Itsuki. And the baby looks like Quann? What happened in the end of this thing? |
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one3rd
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You haven't seen Evangelion yet have you? The sequel movies that are supposed to wrap things up created more questions than they answered. BTW, you should use spoiler tags even if you put a spoiler warning in the title of your thread.
spoiler[I'm not sure about Bahbem, but I can kind of answer the others. I'm pretty sure that all of those events are related to the world being "tuned," which is Ayato's ultimate purpose. At the very end, it is Ayato and Haruka, presumably after the world has been tuned. The baby being Quon is probably another result of that. As for what exactly the whole "tuning" thing is, your guess is as good as mine.] I hope that helps. |
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Kazuki-san
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I had this discussion about a year ago. Look here.
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Kruszer
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What got me lost was the relationship between Haruka, Ayato, and girl in the yellow dress he finds in the first episode (Reika Mishima?). spoiler[From what I understand Haruka and Ayato were once a couple in school but she left and because of the time difference effect got older? Why doesn't Ayato remember any of this, (or there being two universes are there two Ayatos and the other one being the one Haruka remembers)? Then there's the girl who later apears and introduces herself as Haruka so I'm given to believe that he does remember knowing Haruka then why does he call her something completely different in the episodes before that one? I remember Megumi explaing how they changed their last names, so would that explain it somehow. So I guess what I'm trying to ask is if the girl and Haruka are really the same person or if that's Ikshli messing with us because it's supposed to take the form of the person the Instrumentalist most desires? ] Can anyone clarify this point for me?
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TheAlmightyMe
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Watch the end of the last episode, after the credits. It will explain the relationship between Ayato, Haruka, And Reika. As to why Ayato does not recall Haruka; it was explained in an earlier episode that the memories of those inside Tokyo-Jupiter were erased by the Mu. spoiler[As to why everyone dies, but is then alive in the end, as well as the older Ayato with a baby Quon. The world was out of tune; thus thing were occuring unnatually, once Ayato retuned the world, things were put back to the order that they should have been. Ergo the baby Quon, the Adult Ayato and the marrige of Mimorou and Asahina] Last edited by TheAlmightyMe on Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:40 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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one3rd
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spoiler[The girl in the yellow dress's appearance is based on something from Ayato's memory. She isn't the real Mishima. It seems that Ayato's memory has been tampered with. Haruka is the real Mishima. Because she was outside of Tokyo at the time that the Mu started their attacks, she stayed in real-time while for Ayato, time slowed down. Tokyo Jupiter is really like an alternate dimension. I'll try to explain the Mishima thing more simply. This will be somewhat in chronological order. Ayato's memory is of Haruka Mishima. Tokyo Jupiter incident. Mu creates Reika Mishima. Haruka Mishima's name changes to Haruka Shitow. Time passes (more time for Haruka than for Ayato). Haruka and Ayato meet again, but Ayato remembers nothing about her because of the work the Mu did on Ayato's mind.].
I hope that makes it clearer. |
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Kazuki-san
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That's not quite accurate spoiler[ Reika is not an implanted memory put there by the Mu. Reika is more like the soul of the Xephon. It's not that Ayato doesn't remember Haruka, although that is part of it. She's also much older and different from the person Ayato knew, which is why he doesn't realize it at first.] |
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Kruszer
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It does indeed thanks everyone. Simmiliar to how I interpreted it in the first place then ended up thinking too much. 
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philg
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I'm still not satisfied. I do not understand: spoiler[This whole mother-sister thing going on. Ayato's mother and Haruka's aunt? But Haruka is married (or in love) with Ayato, but cousins? And Quon being Ayato's mum's sister?...and then there's the whole three children-grown-up subplot. With Makoto, I forgot the other two names... umm Iruki (long-hair-glasses) and tall blonde woman who is Lord Bahbem. That was completely harsh on the mind. So they were all friends but the woman was a man thousands of years old who's been plotting the worlds future from the beginning?? And also... the other woman, with long blonde hair who cries throughout the series who is in love with Glasses guy and/or Ayato?? And... the journalist? I understand that he really was a spy from the Mulians (I think) and he was just putting up a cover to get info on TERRA yes?? And is it right by me saying that RahXephon is Ayato and when Quon and Ayato fight they become Yoetlloeieyy and they become the world?
And is it possible to interpret the series' underlying themes as 'Utopia & Distopia' (in Dinotopia... that's really lame).] Sorry if this really annoys people, but don't answer if you don't care or know. Oh and is the movie important to understanding the series more because in the previews it has yellow-dress Reika with Ayato... which confuses me. thanks.. |
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Kruszer
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spoiler[Yes, it does appear they were kissing cousins, but then again I've seen stranger relationships in anime. Like the one between Shugo and Raina in .hack//Legend of the Twilight Bracelet (brother and sister) for instance. Then again since Haruka is apparently human and Ayato some kind of manufactured hybrid because he has red blood but also the "Mu Phase", then they probabally won't have super-retard babies. Not to mention Ayato created a completely new world at the end, so he could have changed things like genetics simply. ] 
spoiler[As for Itsuki Kisaragi (The guy with the glasses), Makoto Isshki (The white haired guy), and Helena Bähbem (the blond) they are all clone hybrids of Mulians created by the old guy Babum who died aparently later on in the series and somehow transfered himself into Helena. Ishki's assistant Sayoko Nanamori (the one who killed him), was also a clone/hybrid created by Babum. I think the reporter/spy was spying for the federation government on TERA as an internal affairs kind of thing, not for the Mulians, and killed Babum because he was actually a Mulian. One of the first to come to the human world who's been living imprtally by switching bodies which is one reason he created the clones.] Does all of that help a little? Last edited by Kruszer on Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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TheAlmightyMe
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spoiler[The reporter guy was actually the leader of TERRA] |
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angel_lover
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Just for people's information, although first cousin marriage is illegal in around half the states in the USA, it's legal in Canada, Europe and much of the rest of the world. It's been estimated that as many as 20% of marriages worldwide take place between first cousins.
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Kruszer
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The plot thickens, when was that stated? I realized he must have had authority over Kunagi by the way he acted when he spoiler[showed up in uniform], so I suppose it's not a stretch to believe that. Though I admit I've only been through the series twice so I could have missed it. |
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TheAlmightyMe
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I belive it was mentioned breifly in the background when he showed up in uniform. I haven't watched the series since the movie was released, so I admit I may be off on the exact time of when it was revealed. |
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philg
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spoiler[If the reporter is the leader of TERRA, then why was he spying on his own organisations employees...]
20% of marriages are so NOT first-cousin!! |
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