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bin1127



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:30 am Reply with quote
Look closely at the hair's similarity. And the overall model doesn't look too bad. My guess is the model maker hocked a shipment out the backdoor every time it makes a run.
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:56 am Reply with quote
Why don't bootlegs include the company logo on the boxes? They're already in illegal waters - does infringing on logo trademarks make it that much worse? I see the same avoidance of logos on anime disks too.
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kiminobokuwa



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:37 am Reply with quote
Holy crap. Look at that difference in quality. You can really tell how bad the bootleg is compared to the real thing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:33 am Reply with quote
Gina Szanboti wrote:
Why don't bootlegs include the company logo on the boxes? They're already in illegal waters - does infringing on logo trademarks make it that much worse? I see the same avoidance of logos on anime disks too.


There are instances where they do that. One way the manufacturers combat the logo on a bootleg box that I've seen is the inclusion of particular stickers that also need to be present for official merchandise.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:39 am Reply with quote
Is this a first for ANN? Bootleg figures training? Hey, could be a column....hmmmm....
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:43 am Reply with quote
@ Greed: Yeah, I've seen the sticker bit done, but that seems like it would be easier to fake than the box art.

Heh, I only just now got the title of this interest article. Very Happy
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Dfens



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:53 pm Reply with quote
The actual figure is getting a re-release next year.

For a retail price before exchange rate of about $100.00 dollars. While the bootleg will cost cost you $35.00 dollars or so on average on Ebay from China.

If you look at the quality of the paint and little details you can see why it only costs less than half the retail price.

Lots of times these companies will re-use the same factory molds after hours to make these bootlegs and just pump out a bunch of inferior products to make a quick buck.

Never ever buy a figure direct from China it's a huge red flag that it's not authentic.

Also before the re-release this Utaha figure was going for up to double the retail price since when they go out of print the value shoots through the roof.
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Crext



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:12 pm Reply with quote
They should do more of these, it's funny to compare them.

Though one of my primary reasons for buying original is to support the series/creators I like.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:13 pm Reply with quote
Dfens wrote:
The actual figure is getting a re-release next year.

For a retail price before exchange rate of about $100.00 dollars. While the bootleg will cost cost you $35.00 dollars or so on average on Ebay from China.

If you look at the quality of the paint and little details you can see why it only costs less than half the retail price.

Lots of times these companies will re-use the same factory molds after hours to make these bootlegs and just pump out a bunch of inferior products to make a quick buck.

Never ever buy a figure direct from China it's a huge red flag that it's not authentic.

Also before the re-release this Utaha figure was going for up to double the retail price since when they go out of print the value shoots through the roof.


Crunchyroll sells it for $96.99. They even still seem to have stock.
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H. Guderian



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:17 pm Reply with quote
I appreciate this type of article coming up once in awhile. Good work.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:21 pm Reply with quote
njprogfan wrote:
Is this a first for ANN? Bootleg figures training? Hey, could be a column....hmmmm....


They do it every once in a while:

Accept No Waifu Imitations: How to Spot a Fake Rem Bride Figure

Buyers Beware: Here's How to Spot a Yuri! on Ice Fake

This is the first one I've seen that wasn't explicitly sponsored by Tokyo Otaku Mode, though.
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Estelle the White Mage



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:10 pm Reply with quote
Eh, personally I've bought fake figures before (Cheria from Tales of Graces, among others) and the quality seems to be alright.

Guess I'm not too picky; sure buying direct will yield the best quality but the highest cost. I've only ever bought one figure that was greater than $100. I just find that the Chinese ones look decent enough to buy.
I also used to do this with Warhammer 40K models off Ebay. A set of five Terminator Marines that would cost $50 off Games Workshop's store shelf (which are like 4cm tall... combined they have the same resin content as one of Utaha's leg) can be reverse engineered by the Chinese for like $10.
It matters more to be that I have them, not that I can scrutinize their collar flap to see the details.

Also Ebay's "ending soonest" feature is like a drug. Figures from shows I've seen going for $10, Chinese knockoff, with a minute left is very tempting....
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Animorphimagi



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:15 am Reply with quote
while the differences are quite obvious, i think i prefer the fake more.
It shows more emotions(more smile), the pose is less overly-lewd, and it's not so terribly different that it would be annoying to look at from 5 feet away, which is usually how far away I look at my figures.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:15 am Reply with quote
Isn't this going to help counterfeiters make more authentic-looking products? I mean, this isn't like with counterfeit money, where they provide some details while withholding others because the money is going to head back to the bank sooner or later. There isn't a bank for this--they might as well stay quiet on the details and let the counterfeiters remai ignorant about what they've missed.

Estelle the White Mage wrote:
Eh, personally I've bought fake figures before (Cheria from Tales of Graces, among others) and the quality seems to be alright.


It depends on the figures: I've seen the entire continuum of quality among Chinese bootleg figures, though most are on the lower end, as they want to make sales by undercutting the official stuff.

I say this coming from a bit of time collecting Disney pins. Bootlegs, known as Scrappers, are usually made from the molds of retired pins and by the people who manufactured the original ones to begin with, so they are often VERY hard to tell apart from the official stuff (and have fooled the employees working in the pin-trade department).

I currently collect plushes, and I'll tell you this: Bootleg plushes tend to be of VERY low quality. It's pretty late right now at night and thus not in the mood for a photo, but I have both an official plush and a bootleg plush of Spike from My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, and the differences, as well as resemblance to how he appears in the show, are like night and day.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:12 am Reply with quote
Dad: Why are you looking up your figurines skirt, son?
Son: I'm just checking for fakes!
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