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Kougeru
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I hope the companies didn't fold. SAG-AFTRA has proven extremely corrupt and greedy, more so than even a lot of these video game companies.
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Firefly251
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I hope they get sued by the people. they didn't ask the people if they should accept any deal. they had 1 vote (durign work day) through entire thing. They had all their accepted terms ages ago but kept asking for more (liekly backed down from that and just accepted prior stuff) |
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ATastySub
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Joining the chorus of replies to say that I too love the taste of a good boot.
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Nekbone
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"And another thing: I'm not mad. Please don't put in the newspaper that i got mad." It really is amazing how bad SAG-AFTRA fumbled the narrative and got everyone to turn on them though. It needs to be studied. |
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Vs7
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That dubious honor belongs to a certain Genshin VA. They managed to almost single-handedly crumble the solid support SAG-AFTRA had. After that, more people from both sides started speaking up, and the rest is, as they say, history. |
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MFrontier
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What a mess.
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Tenebrae
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I followed this saga mainly on certain gacha games' player discussions places. Initially, almost everyone was very supportive of the strike and "some characters won't be voiced, but it can't be helped." But once behind-the-scenes stuff started leaking out into the open and a certain VA just couldn't keep their mouth shut, the mood started rapidly turning against SAG-AFTRA's leadership.
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TsarPlatinum
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I didn't follow it very closely but the once I saw the Union VAs bullying the non-Union VAs then that pretty much dried up any sympathy I think. I wonder what the agreement is. Who won in the end? |
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AiddonValentine
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"Delicious leather" In all seriousness, I hope this is finally the end and studios' bluff being called leads to a fair contract for all guild members. Trust me, there's to criticize about the guild but a few members (they know who they are) complaining about not being able to audition for some roles is not enough for me to sympathize, especially when fans started trying to work people against SAG-AFTRA. There is a lesson to be learned from that. |
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WANNFH
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Especially when that actors are not even joined to the cause (considering Hoyoverse was not on the list of the companies SAG struck against, and not even had unionized contracts to begin with) - but rather decided to do their own thing literally for the personal benefits and covered it by that cause. |
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Philmister978
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Let's be serious here, in the long run, both sides are clearly in the wrong and this strike shouldn't have happened to begin with, much less last as long as it did and become as catastrophic as it got.
While I agree that companies (both video game and film alike) are being greedy jackasses, since when aren't they, by using AI without even bothering to consider an actor as a backup option. Though I also argue this is also an issue with non-American productions using COMPASS 2.0 as an example by having the system voice be an AI and not a proper VA is a highly questionable choice in and of itself. I have to wonder how the seiyu of the series thought of it given all the controversy as of late (to say nothing about anime companies trying to use AI as a means to cut jobs, or Hollywood's own embrace of AI for any and everything these days). At that same token, any and all sympathy SAG-AFTRA could have had was pretty much lost thanks to the strikes lasting as long as they did, while also going after Hoyoverse, a company that wasn't meant to be in their crosshairs to begin with unlike EA or Disney, makes me wonder what their actual end goal is given the TV/Film strikes ended over a year ago. Especially since many of these actors do have animated productions in film and TV to support them and video game companies have been farming voice acting off to Canada, the UK or just leaving the audio undubbed or out entirely for decades. If anything, this will only strengthen the game companies' resolve to hire either non-union actors, in-house staff members, overseas VAs or simply have no voice acting in their games going forward. Then there's the fact that the higher-ups agreed to AI conditions without consenting most of its members about it, much less the VAs under the union, so that looks worse on Drescher and her crew as much as the Hoyoverse incident looks bad on the VAs. Like I said, neither side is coming up smelling like roses thanks to their collective actions and how this is a thing that's been stewing for decades at this point. But really, SAG brought it onto themselves by targeting companies that weren't a part of the original pool of companies targeted while also making deals that many of its members disagree with at the same time; along with some very bad seeds within the union pool in terms of attitudes and beliefs ruining it for everyone in the global English VA community. This may damage their rep in the video game industry for quite a while and I wouldn't be shocked if we go back to the days of either in-house or non-US Voice acting or companies simply either forgoing an English option or voice acting altogether. |
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ATastySub
Past ANN Contributor
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I really wish people would think for a bit when going, “both sides are wrong, the one doing the thing that causes people to strike, but also the striking people for striking so long.”
There is one party responsible for both those things! Who do you think decides how long the strike lasts when there is no meeting of demands? Do you just decide to absolve the actions that you admit were wrong that started it because now you feel inconvenienced? That kind of lack of ethics/morals will forever astound me as someone who cares deeply about art and the people that actually make it. Last edited by ATastySub on Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:36 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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AiddonValentine
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And strike is now lifted as of noon PST. Let's see how the contract goes down.
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Aperture Clyde
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So did Paimon's EN VA do that whole show about quitting for nothing? lol
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WANNFH
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It was literally the group of unionized VA decided to use the strike against US game companies as a coverage to expand their own contractual obligations with Hoyoverse for the personal benefit despite they not really supposed to work for them without union contracts (as per SAG-AFTRA guidelines) while literally one-sidedly throwing out all the work they obligated to be done - and when Hoyo decided to not follow their demands and searched for replacements, the same group literally did nothing but throwing tantrum in social media and provoked harassment campaign against replacement actors while calling them scabs. |
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