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naruto fan 09812
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This is not another thread about the morality of Hentai and your thoughts on that issue. I actually got a legit question about Hentai. Is it anime or is it just a porno. First,I would like to comment on psycho 101 riduculous notion that Hentai is actually anime. I going to says this once and only once. Hentai is not anime period. Is it just animated porno,it is nothing more and its nothing less. I am not saying that Japan do not got live action porn. I just saying since there such a big growup anime in audience in Japan. And therefore Hentai is make to money off of that. I know that its technically anime. But that like saying that the Cubs actually got a short to win the World Series. Or that OJ Simpson is actually innocent. See the hole in that logic with this issue. But I that the defintion of anime should be rewritten and saying that you should get any physical pleasure out of watching its. But hey that just mine opinion on the issue.
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fighterholic
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For a moment when I first saw the title I was ready to leave, but here's my definition of hentai. It is: 1) Porn, for having depictions of characters having sex, 2) Anime, because it is written, animated, and produced in Japan.
In other words, it is porno anime, not animated porno. |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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This is just another attempt, in a long series of attempts, to show how evil hentai is. I am also personally getting tired of this debate. It will never reach an agreement by either side of the debate, as has been demonstrated time and time again here at ANN. Yet, certain members feel the need to constantly bring this subject up and try and work the moral high ground. Here's the facts people; 1. Hentai IS ANIME. It is a form, or sub-genre- of anime. I don't give a rat's ass if you like it or not but that is the simple truth. (if I'm wrong may Zac or Tempest say so themselves and smite me down) Deal with it. 2. Hentai's main role is to be a conveyer of sexualness. It other words, yes it's main role is to be adult and pornographic. I personally find many of them funny, in a stupid wtf sort of way. I personally fail to see how a tentacle sex scene is erotic, so I choose to laugh at it. There are some with good stories where the sex is minimal and tasteful. No different then your Monster's Ball kind of movie. You can think whatever you want about the morality of hentai but it is a form of anime. I also find it very funny how sooooo many people preach about how hentai is wrong and how it's disgusting, yet seem to have no problem with real adult films starring Jenna Jameson and Peter North.
Actually yes it is narutofan. It is indeed a form of anime. Show me where the anime dictionary is and where it excludes hentai. Comedy--check, Action---check, Drama---check, Hentai---oh no we don't want that. Just because you don't like it does not give you the right to try and once again shovel your moral high ground into everyone else's faces, which is all you're doing. You're arguing the same old crap you've done countless times. You show no real intelligence, only blinding stupidity and ignorance. You go on and on and make statements that are completely false, and try and back them up with factless opinions as you always have here. You expect everyone to jump on the moral bandwagon and when they don't you've said such things as; "hentai is a circle that leads to rape." You speak just to hear yourself speak, and your words don't even have any truth to them. You also fail to ever see when you're wrong and it's pointed out to you by countless people. Then, you have the nerve to compare hentai to something like the OJ Simpson trial. You wanna compare hentai to some backstabbing murderer, you sir are an flamming idiot. You keep bringing up this topic every few weeks or so. Here's a dollar, go buy yourself a clue. Quit bringing this up, or at the very least show some bloody intelligence on the subject and not just your normal, old, factless opinions. Since you're God and hero, Jerry Fallwell, just died why don't you go take up his crown and you can be the next person who preaches about how morally indecent we all are and how we're all gonna burn in the fires of hell. 
I also find this thread hilarious, in a very sad and pathetic way, because it seems you started it as nothing but a flame against me. Get your head out of whatever hole it's in and start living in reality. BTW, if you got a problem with me or my views get off your ass and PM me or the mods and complain. Don't start threads solely to flame someone with your morally superior views. That's just rude and ignorant regardless of who you do it to. |
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Ramadahl
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Uh, why the hell did you just make three threads about Hentai, all complaining about it? Wouldn't it have been more efficient to get all your hentai b*tching done in one thread?
See, this is why your argument sucks. You're contradicting yourself in the opening post, admiting that any debate is over before it starts. You already know that hentai is anime, you just don't like that fact. And why don't you like it? Maybe the answer is in the quote below...
What's wrong with getting physical pleasure out of it? Sure, it may not be your kind of thing, and I know it's not mine, but why do you care if some guy gets his rocks off over it? Geez... |
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Xlll
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What is up with you and hentai, are you having girl problems at home or something? Well, atleast we know your human for the most part. As for the topic, hentai is hentai, it is what it is, or you can simply view it as a living infestant (i.e. subgenre) existing in anime. Either way, it still boils down to being anime in my opinion, though I gave up on it after hearing the title "Mother Knows Breast".
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fighterholic
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He is a Christian extremist who thinks we are all going to agree with him on the part that it is morally wrong and that it should be banished from the ends of the earth. I can see where he is trying to go and would like to agree with him in certain ways, but he does not provide valid arguments to the cause and only complains. |
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hentai4me
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Doesn't this entire argument hinge upon us having the same moral values? In absence of meaningful evidence it boils down to morals. Tell me are the morals of a Christian extremist likely to be different to those of a Postmodernist? Is one of their moral compi (plural of compass? compasses?) right and the others moral values wrong?
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Dargonxtc
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Well that should be the end of it, right?
 Ok well this really isn't against you or anything fighterholic. But couldn't we really just put any religion in place of the of the Christian one. I guess I am just tired of everyone just blaming Christians as if they are the root of all evil. I am pretty sure extreme Muslims would have some big problems with this sort of thing. So what I am trying to say is lets just call them extremists and leave at that. Thats what they are, and there are all different types who believe the same things, ya know? No need to bring a whole sect into things where it doesn't belong.
Anyway, other than that I agree with you, I wasn't singling you out or anything, I have read enough of your post to know you meant well. ... My sentence on the topic: Hentai is a sub-form of the medium. |
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naruto fan 09812
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I am simply not a christian extermist. If I was I would take issue with the graphic violence and blood in regular anime. I just take issue with Hentai and Porn because of a personal exprience I had with it. Also,I probably went a bit overboard with the Hentai issue today. So,If anyone who got offended by mine comments. I am truly sorry that I went a tad bit overboard with the issue. And I wasnt flaming you psycho. I just took issue with what you said.
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zombie828
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Heh, he's made three topics about the same subject. I'd say "ban?", but he's pretty damn entertaining.
naruto fan 09812, what exactly are you trying to accomplish? It's not like hentai is constantly discussed on this forum (you're the one creating all of the discussion). Even if you did somehow manage to turn everyone on this forum against hentai, it'd mean nothing - all it would do is bring more hate to the world. It's not going to suddenly disappear, and there's really nothing you can do about it existing or other people's opinions of it. It's great that you have an opinion, but we've all heard it and are now starting to get sick of it. edit: posted during the same time as the previous post. naruto fan, please tell us more about this horrible personal experience you had with hentai. Did you get caught by your mom? :o |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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Oh so once again when you're met with almost unanimous opinions different from yours you try and pull this crap. Everytime you have started a thread, or posted in one, with some crap as you have today you always do this. You get blatantly told you're wrong and being ignorant and instead of even trying to back up your own twisted, and factless logic you turn tail and just say "my bad, so sorry guys." I don't think so. A bad experience is also not justification for the amount of rude ignorance you show. I had a bad experience with Smoked Salmon the other day, you don't see me degrading all people who like Smoked Salmon or produce/serve it now do you? Unless the characters jumped out the screen and violated you personally this is no excuse. |
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naruto fan 09812
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Dude,what do you want from me? I gave apology if anyone were offended by mine comments relating with Hentai. I still do not back down from mine opinion of Hentai. Its a bit arongant to assume that I should shake off a exprience I had relating with Hentai. Because,you not know what exprience I had toward Hentai. And your salmon bit about was very immature to says. I tired to be the bigger men and apology but if you insist on not accepting its than fine. Futhermore,what threads you had been looking at because usually when I make and opinion I usually do not back down to it.
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Tyrenol
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Hey, what's this all about?
Hentai is animated porn; pure and simple. Okay... Not as pure and simple since half the "visual novels," stories that feature sex in order to sell better, end up getting turned into watered-down non-hentai anime for more people to watch. As a matter of fact: I don't know of any other country than Japan to actually spend all that time and money animating pornography. We here in the US are so lame for not utilizing the potential powers we have. 
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Iwatch2muchanime
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For the love of god Naruto fan 90210 (intentional mess up) you really need to stop throwing out all these ridiculous notions and made-up arguments about hentai. This thread is the stupidest of the 3 you threw up here with an attempt at an argument that doesn't even hold with your very first post, psycho 101 has already beaten you down, whether you accept it or not, and I don't want to jump in here and belittle you with pointless insults and showing you everywhere you're wrong and winning an argument that shouldn't have been brought up to begin with. The only acceptable thread you made was the quality of hentai and that's because it seemed you don't know what you're talking about and knew that you didn't. Don't make me verbally and internationally curb-stomp you.
Paragraph of flamewar starting material right here. |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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What I want is not the issue, what you NEED is to act with some measure of intelligence. You always go off with these morally backed opinions and run your mouth. Then when met with almost unanimous criticism you simply go "my bad" and expect everything to be fine. The apology is nice but not enough. You seem to think you can say whatever you want and get out of it without taking some personal responsibility and baking up your words. People may show you more respect if you backed up your words, but you almost never do. Even if it's the most screwed up, retarded, factless opinion you can think of at least if you try and back it up with real information and support your opinion people would not regard you as being full of hot air (at least not as much. As for your experience, much like the list of hentai you've seen, is non existent. You go on about it but do not explain. You also don't mention what hentai you've ever seen. Without proof your opinions are factless, and pointless. If you can't support your own opinions don't post them. Popular or not, right or not, when you post an opinion you better back it up with real evidence and proof or it's nothing but empty words. |
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