Forum - View topicOT: Pixar walks out on Disney
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LordByronius
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http://eastbay.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/2004/01/26/daily28.html
I know, I know, "OFF TOPIC!" However, it should prove interesting as to how future Ghibli releases are handled here, considering that John Lasseter, Miyazaki's personal Hollywood lobbyist, could lose his sway with Disney. |
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Delthayre
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Heh.
For some reason I've come to delight in Disney getting shafted lately, and I think this qualifies as getting shafted. |
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Ataru
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 It's only on a matter of days or weeks before Disney begs Pixar back, on hands and knees.
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Nagisa
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I'm not so concerned for Pixar, because any studio with half an ounce of common sense would be dying to bring them on board. They'll wind up with another studio under a better contract in almost no time. Disney, however...well, short of Pixar's films, most of their recent efforts have not been...very memorable, to put it nicely. They're really going to have to turn it up a notch if they want to stay ahead of the game.
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GATSU
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I remember one of the forum people said they had a share in Disney. If you're still here, Roy is asking you to vote no on Eisner's re-election as CEO. (Details at www.savedisney.com )
Even if he increases your stock, it'll be at the expense of quality animated features. So ask yourselves if it's really worth it. |
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littlegreenwolf
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Heh, I can see Disney going completely down hill from here on out. They were planning to go completely 3D, and now they just lost the biggest name in that department. Who the heck is running Disney again? Whoever it is is a complete idiot. *still resents them for fireing all their animators and claiming 2D animation is dead*
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Dilandau
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I laugh at Disney. Let them sink I say! Pixar should compete against Disney and do them much damage.
I think this could possibly help the Miyazaki stuff. For the most part the titles have done well, and now Disney is stranded on incompotence island. Perhaps they will be forced to give Kaze no Tani no Naushika the star treatment. Writhe in agony Disney! Burn, Burn! muhahahahahahaha...oh sorry...I had a Dilandau moment. 
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GATSU
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*ugh* Dark Horizons said Disney will be doing a Bambi 2 and a Pixar-less Toy Story 3 for home video.
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Nagisa
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Okay that...I don't like to rag on Disney too much, because in their time they did produce what can still be considered some of the greatest animated works of all time. However, all these lackluster sequels they've been churning out lately are not the way to go. Just flooding the market with stuff like Bambi 2, Toy Story 3, 105 Dalmatians, Jungle Book 12...and then popping out an incredibly uninspired original piece like Treasure Planet...it's only going to kill them in the long run. And it seems that by the time the realize that, it'll be too late to turn things around.
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Steventheeunuch
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Yikes. |
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king_micah
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Still, not as bad as Hunchback of Notre Dame 1 and 2. Those are just wrong.
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mahoro
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I agree Eisner needs to understand what it takes make a good story for general audiences. I do not trust he possesses the ability to make good decisions for the future of Disney. Fortunately Pixar is smart enough to realize Disney is more trouble than they are worth. I think is also interesting to note, these recent turn of events occured not too long after the last Disney member was forced to resign. Lastly, we also had an interesting discussion about the increased use of CG animation by Disney and how it has not helped Disney to release better animated films.
animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=54101&highlight=#54101 Got to love PIXR and it's strong position in the market... their outlook looks great! |
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mahoro
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Jobs royally roasted Eisner, “…no amount of marketing will turn a dud into a hit”. Damn straight! I’ve been saying it all along and from the mouth of Jobs, he clearly points out what is wrong with the direction Eisner is taking Disney’s animated feature films. I wonder if Eisner and everyone else remaining at Disney is taking notes.
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ShellBullet
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Eisner is a business man, he has no clue how to make a decent film and (thank heavens) he doesn't try. As a business man his primary goal should be to finance the creative people that do actually know how to tell a story. That's why he gets an F in management: letting go of the biggest cash cow in recent years is just plain insane. |
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mahoro
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It is more than just letting go of a proven "cash cow" that I take issue with. Eisner is stupid for not investing enough resources to the Disney animation departments to improve the overall quality of animated film. Obviously, he needs to bring in more creative people who understand what is needed to create a GOOD animated film. You would have thought since Pixar became partners back in '95 I believe, the creative talents would have learned something from their collaborative efforts. Sadly when you look at the record of Disney's own dismal releases, the evidence is clear, Disney animated films are subpar. The public dislikes and now Jobs clearly pointed out to all, what is WRONG with the direction Eisner is taking the company. Question is what is he going to do different now, to rectify the situation immediately? Only time will tell, but with the superior talented pool at Pixar, I doubt Disney films will improve for the better anytime soon. |
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