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nhat



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:26 pm Reply with quote
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In August of this year, the Dutch trading card company Upper Deck International filed a lawsuit against its own Upper Deck Co. subsidiary in California — claiming that the subsidiary counterfeited the Yu-Gi-Oh! card game and cost its parent company millions of dollars in legal fees, lost sales, and damaged reputation.



lol Upper Deck International sued their own subsidiary , man the US subsidiary sucks.
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Dessa



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Just as an FYI, all of the official information spells it "Roya", not "Roia" (both the US release, and the cards that came with the Japanese release).
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toyNN



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:26 pm Reply with quote
Wow I thought this was about the Yu-Gi-Oh card thing - but its about Kiba? I'm right in the middle of watching the anime too. Its been pretty good and I got the full series during one of the Crunchyroll-rightstuf special promotions. Had no idea it was involved in a lawsuit.

3.9$ million - sounds like Upper Deck has valid claims but getting involved in a partnership was bad luck right as the recession was hitting in the US.

By not paying and with the other lawsuit seems like Upper Deck will have to file bankruptcy.
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Primus



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:40 pm Reply with quote
The entire Kiba franchise isn't even worth $1 million.
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ikillchicken



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$3.9 Million? Jeez, that's a lot of money. You could buy like five Aniplex Blurays for that!
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Spotlesseden



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:33 pm Reply with quote
toyNN wrote:

3.9$ million - sounds like Upper Deck has valid claims but getting involved in a partnership was bad luck right as the recession was hitting in the US.

By not paying and with the other lawsuit seems like Upper Deck will have to file bankruptcy.


$3.9m is not that much. Card games are pretty good business. But of course they didn't see the recession. I don't see how they have a valid claim. I licensed an anime or manga from Japan. IF i don't make any money, I don't have to pay them?

More than one American companies tried to not pay those jp anime companies now. Maybe they think Japanese wouldn't know the American legal system.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:17 pm Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
$3.9 Million? Jeez, that's a lot of money. You could buy like five Aniplex Blurays for that!
If they were on sale, maybe ;D
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:33 pm Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
$3.9 Million? Jeez, that's a lot of money. You could buy like five Aniplex Blurays for that!

Bravo. Very Happy
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Ongaku_no_tenshi



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:11 am Reply with quote
Apollo-kun wrote:
ikillchicken wrote:
$3.9 Million? Jeez, that's a lot of money. You could buy like five Aniplex Blurays for that!
If they were on sale, maybe ;D


This exchange had me laughing for quite a while. I thank and applaud you both. Laughing
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MrHatandClogs



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:38 am Reply with quote
Just another reason why Japanese animation companies won't want to make joint production shows with America. Thanks Upper Deck...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:39 am Reply with quote
Spotlesseden wrote:
toyNN wrote:

3.9$ million - sounds like Upper Deck has valid claims but getting involved in a partnership was bad luck right as the recession was hitting in the US.

By not paying and with the other lawsuit seems like Upper Deck will have to file bankruptcy.


$3.9m is not that much. Card games are pretty good business. But of course they didn't see the recession. I don't see how they have a valid claim. I licensed an anime or manga from Japan. IF i don't make any money, I don't have to pay them?


No, seems like Upper Deck is part of the production committee, not a licensee. Unfortunately for them, Japan made something else that they couldn't sell to their audience. Advice to them: next time, put everything on signed paper, so if anyone deviates from what was agreed upon, you have a notarized claim.
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Charred Knight



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:19 am Reply with quote
MrHatandClogs wrote:
Just another reason why Japanese animation companies won't want to make joint production shows with America. Thanks Upper Deck...


That and the boom ended 4 years ago peaking in 2004.
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Chiyosuke



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:38 pm Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
$3.9 Million? Jeez, that's a lot of money. You could buy like five Aniplex Blurays for that!


*DEAD* Granted I do love AUSA (mostly for being the spiritual successor to Geneon USA), that post almost doesn't sound exaggerated
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