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NEWS: Gunslinger Girl, New Anime Block on IFC




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Chrno2



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:40 am Reply with quote
Now this is funny I just got through talking about 'GSG' to a friend and then I look up and they are putting it on IFC. So does this mean that 'IFC' is going start hosting anime now? Considering that the often have a good variety of Japanese dramas from time to to, hell why not. Smile
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herbkir



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:06 am Reply with quote
I think they've decided to make anime a staple of their programming. They've done okay with Japanese live dramas and from what I can tell, their run of Samurai 7 has been a big success. So now they're upping the ante and establishing a regular weekly adult-level anime block with 2 simultaneous series.

Only flaw in this is the limited availability for IFC. It requires satellite or digital cable, and when available is usually offered as a 2nd- or 3rd-tier service. For instance, it's a 2nd-tier service on Dish Network. Folks with just basic cable are pretty much out of luck here.

One mystery to me is why they're going to call their block "The Grind House?" I don't see any connection between that title and anime or Japan. Maybe someone out there has an idea why?? (^_*)
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:35 am Reply with quote
Man, those idiots at Sundance really do use the "indie" label indiscriminately nowadays, don't they? At least play the Kon stuff or "Mind Game" if you want to include programming reflective of the network.
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hikaru004



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:44 pm Reply with quote
herbkir wrote:
One mystery to me is why they're going to call their block "The Grind House?" I don't see any connection between that title and anime or Japan. Maybe someone out there has an idea why?? (^_*)



I think that "The Grind Hour" may refer to this..

Wikipedia wrote:
Grindhouse cinema
Another term is grindhouse cinema; referring to the usually-disreputable movie theaters in which they were shown. Many of these inner-city theatres formerly featured burlesque shows which featured "bump and grind" dancing, leading to the term "grindhouse." The book Sleazoid Express, a travelogue of the grindhouses of New York's 42nd Street, explains that in the 1970s-late 1980s, the etymology of "grindhouse" changed to refer to the operations of twenty-four hour theatres, which would continually "grind out" films around the clock (a reference to the cranking motion required of old film cameras and projectors).

A grindhouse is an American term for a theater that showed exploitation films; it is also used as an adjective to describe the genre of films that played in such theatres. While just about any film that featured excessive sex or violence was typically shown at a grindhouse, the grindhouse genre encompasses films that were unacceptable by the terms of the mainstream: especially brutally violent films, films with bizarre or perverse plot points, etc. Frequent fare for such theatres were low-budget Chinese and Japanese movies, specifically kung-fu and samurai movies, which were known for being exceptionally bloody.

The term grind-house may also refer to a kind of low-budget inner-city theater common in American cities from the 1950s until the 1980s. Having been movie palaces during the cinema boom of the 1930s and 1940s, these theaters had fallen into disrepair by the 1960s. Grind-houses were known for "grinding out" non-stop, triple-bill programs of B movies. Beginning in the late 1960s and especially during the 1970s, the subject matter of grind-house features often included explicit sex, violence, and other taboo content. By the end of the 1970s, many grind-houses were exclusively pornographic and the trashy exploitation movies shown in them were regularly discussed in the fanzine Sleazoid Express.

By the 1980s, home video threatened to render the grind-house obsolete. By the end of the decade, these theaters had vanished from Los Angeles' Broadway and Hollywood Boulevard, New York City's Times Square and San Francisco's Market Street, just to name a few. By the mid-1990s, the grindhouse completely disappeared from American culture.


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I think that this insults the titles in question, if this is what was meant. Mad
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herbkir



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:53 pm Reply with quote
If IFC is using "Grind House" for its anime block because of the link to films that are too bizarre, violent and perverted for the mainstream audience, they are doing the titles they run a huge disservice.

Anime has enough trouble establishing itself as valid, respectable entertainment without IFC linking it to sleazy, dirty, shocking cinema. They may think this is cute, but they are wrong. (^_*)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:03 pm Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
Man, those idiots at Sundance really do use the "indie" label indiscriminately nowadays, don't they? At least play the Kon stuff or "Mind Game" if you want to include programming reflective of the network.


I fail to see the issue with it. This isn't Naruto or One Piece or FMA or Eva, it's Gunslinger Girl. It's a somewhat known series but nowhere near widely commercial or mass marketed. It's definitely not the type of series that is going to be shown on any other channel. I think Gunslinger Girl is a great embodiment of the nature of independent film in that it doesn't follow typical conventions and steps a bit outside what many would consider comfortable for a series, but is done so in a quality and artistic fashion.

Anyways, why aren't they playing Mind Game? Gee, I don't know, maybe because ... it's not licensed? Just an idea. Anime is a small niche market, so like it or not even if they pick less known titles they're still going to be known to a significan number of the anime fanbase because it's a domestic broadcast and needs to play licensed material.
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hikaru004



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:52 pm Reply with quote
Besides, even if Mind Game was licensed, who would want to watch it? It doesn't follow any logic and the animation style is not mainstream, but artsy. To me, that means that this is aimed for an ultra-niche population and not cable channel viewers being introduced to anime.
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