Forum - View topicWell i just finished watching wolf's rain and.....
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ChrisC
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i was wondering what you all think of then ending and what happand, i dont really understand it. Maby thats becasue im new to anime i dont know.spoiler[they all die but does that mean paradise is death or something like that?.] thanks
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TranceLimit174
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Due to the subject matter I'm gonna preface my reply with the potential of having spoilers.
Ah, being new to anime you must not be familiar with the "reset the world" ending. It's not exactly common but at the same time it is not a rarity. Essentially this an ending where when everything is all said and done everything reverts back to the way it was before series began. There are other series with this type of ending but for due to spoiling I won't name them. Personally I usually see this type of ending as a cop out ending. Too me it comes off as if the writers bit off a little more than they could chew, and instead of attempting to wrap everything up they just "reset" everything and just let the mysteries remain mysteries. It comes off as lazy to me and I feel cheated when I experience such an ending. The only anime I can think of where this ending worked is spoiler[Big O.] Also I think these "reset" endings are also used to keep a franchise alive after it finishes. Because with everything going back to square one, it allows for numerous fan works (such as fanfiction) to help keep popularity alive. |
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Nani?
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I agree that the "reset" ending is usually a cop out ending. However, in the case of Wolf's Rain I don't think it's the case. First of all, Wolf's Rain is based various Animistic or semi Animstic myth cycles that can be found in cultures as diverse as Native American to Norse where human greed and disrespect for the natural world get to the point where, after a great battle, a very few suriviors start to rebuild and restore the balance in the aftermath of devestation emigrate to the next world, where the cycle eventually repeats itself. Also, it should be noted fighting in the final battle, or even opening the door does not mean you get to enter the next world. With that in mind, the end of Wolf's Rain makes perfect sense. Kiba spoiler[opens the doors to Paradise. However, "paradise" is also "Eden" in the next world. ] So, it is a happy ending in the sense that life goes on, all the characters are probably reborn several times in this new world. However, this world also degenerates and at some point, a door to a "new" Paradise will need to opening spoiler[to have the wolves reborn in modern Japan implies that we are living in world on the edge of apocolypse and rebirth, just as the world of Wolf's Rain is at the begining of the series,] just as a lot of those myth cycles, with prophecies such as "husks of Ash being droped on the people of the Sun" (Hopi), or wealth being the only measure of status (Norse), seem to imply, not unlike the book of the moon. Also, here is a bit on the probably extinct Japanese Wolf, here, http://www.wolfsongalaska.org/Wolves_Japan_on_extct.htm You'll probably recognise some of the themes Wolf's Rain. All the Best, Nani? |
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goins007
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I did like the ending of wolfs rain, I felt that ending to spoiler[BigO] was a complete cop out, and a horrible ending to the series. It just didn't make any sense....I have all the DVD's and I still watch them some times just so I can try to figure out what the hell the ending was about...
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TranceLimit174
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spoiler[I thought the Big O ending made perfect sense in terms of the story. The entire history of Paradigm and the loss of everyone's memories was completely surrounded in mystery. The clues are there, but there isn't really a set in stone answer. Granted, I thought the sudden last minute addition of Big Venus was a little weak. But once again given the series' setting I felt it was appropriate, because (at least how it came off to me) was that for whatever reason (I have a big theory about Angel but that's for another topic if it ever arises), the greater forces at work did not want their secrets to be discovered. So as soon as Roger was on the verge of making those discoveries...Big Venus was used to set everything back to the way it was. Even though I was a little disappointed, given this particular series I was also satisfied at the same time.]
Now back to Wolf's Rain. I was pretty sure that there was some mythology basis for the series, however I never bothered to really look into it. I liked the concept for Wolf's Rain, and hooked me in just enough to make me want to watch to see where it would go. However now that I think about it I had some similar issues with Wolf's Rain as I did with Texhnolyze. There were small time skips between episode which forced the viewer to have to catch up to the plot. Not neccessarily a bad method to tell a story, but it's certainly not my preferred way to experience one. As a viewer I guess I just didn't get the reward I was expecting. For the most part, I really don't like it when within the last 3 episodes or so everyone just starts spoiler[getting killed off rapid fire. To me it comes off as a last minute reach for plot twists.] Also, at the same time I was experiencing a lot of these "reset the world" endings at the time (I believe the other series we have mentioned had recently finished), so when I saw it I just went "damnit, another 'reset the world' ending. Well I guess this series will live on in the world of fanfiction.'" To be honest, I expected more from this series (personal taste issue). It's been a while, but I felt that because of the ending what initially got me interested in the show was never wrapped up, so I felt slided. |
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Darkenin13
 Posts: 34 Location: Staten Island, NYC |
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I found the ending really interesting. The reset ending makes sense but i Had another thought on the end. spoiler[At the end there all human, and im pretty sure one of them was riding a motorcycle. In the show they never drove a car or used anything that you would need hands, so I think that the "time of the wolf" had ended and the "time for man" had started and they were ressurrected as men. But I don't know how true this is, its just a thought off the the top of my head.]. Also does anyone have an opinion on the motorcycle.
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Kruszer
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The series was very good...and then they had to ruin it with OVA (aka episodes 27-30) with all the pointless and depressing character deaths and the crappy reset button ending. Basically these episodes killed the entire series for me.
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marie-antoinette
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spoiler[Yes, at very least Tsume (who is on the motorcycle) and Toboe (who is holding a cat) are human in the reset world. Since those two are, I assume Hige is as well, even though he doesn't do anything non-wolf-ish. Kiba I can see going either way, really...he might still be a wolf (I personally think he is), but he also might be human.] That's what I love about the Wolf's Rain ending, it's all very open to interpretation. One theory that I haven't seen discussed here about it is the idea that spoiler[Darcia corrupted paradise, because you see his eye turn the lunar flower black. Thus paradise was not able to be reached this time, but could be in the future.] I think this idea has merit, though I'm not certain I completely believe it, though certainly something must be made of spoiler[Darcia's eye] I personally tend to think more that spoiler[there may never have been a paradise, that the closest thing we get while we are alive is this world, so we should make the best of it that we can.] Wow...so many spoiler tags. |
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omar235
 Posts: 1572 Location: Florida, Jacksonvile |
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I agree with Nani? everything he said was true, in that the ending was made to end the series and to show all the characters made it out.[/quote]
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Randall Miyashiro
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I've have a love hate relationship with Bones and their last episodes. Has anyone else noticed how they all have spoiler["this could have been you in another reality"] aspect? The first Bones series I watched was RahXephon. In the ending of the series spoiler[reality wasn't concrete, and was re-tuned into a new world, that is if I understand it correctly.] Exactly a year later Wolf's Rain aired on Fuji Television and that series ended with spoiler[ new balance is struck and reality is rewritten.] Later that year Sccrapped Princess was released and once again spoiler["reality was artificially created and the true reality is revealed in the end." ] Fullmetal Alchemist also came out in 2003 and in the end spoiler[Ed ends up in another reality while Al, like Ayato and the wolves ends the series with no recollection of any events in the show.] I'm still in the process of collecting the Mars Daybreak DVDs and am awaiting Eureka 7, but so far Bones biggest hits that have been completed in the US seem to all end the same way!
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AceRyonik
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Whoa whoa whoa, people. It's called a "Mighty Max Ending."
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pumirya
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I like what Nani? and some others have mentioned about mythology playing a part in how wolf's rain was ended.At first after seeing it i felt it was kind of a cop out ending,but opon thinking about it,it wasn't alll that bad. Generally when a series ends a person expects a ending a completion of events.However in the wolf's rain ending the fact that the'reset" style ending was used,although different i believe is another strong point for the series,and another reason why i think it is a must add to a anime collection.
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