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mapi



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:12 pm Reply with quote
I find this a very interesting genre, and if you've read any such manga please give your thoughts about it!

Qwan: An interesting plot and great character designs. However, Akira Shimizu's art does get fairly bland and textbook, especially in settings... Otherwise a good manga, 8 /10

I think this genre has a lot of potential, but I haven't seen a great manga come out of it. I think I'll look into saiyuki, though
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Murasakisuishou



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:54 pm Reply with quote
Saiyuki is fantastic! It's...um....REALLY violent, though, and there's a lot of cursing. If you're okay with that, however, it's a great story with fantastic (and wonderfully attractive) characters.

Isn't DBZ based off the same 'journey to the west' myth?
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Subaru19



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:23 pm Reply with quote
Murasakisuishou wrote:
Saiyuki is fantastic! It's...um....REALLY violent, though, and there's a lot of cursing. If you're okay with that, however, it's a great story with fantastic (and wonderfully attractive) characters.

Isn't DBZ based off the same 'journey to the west' myth?


Journey to the West or Xiyouji is actually not a myth exactly. It's a novel that attained a kind of popular cultural "myth" status after its publication in the Ming dynasty (1500s). I wish I could remember the name of the purported author (no scholars really agree on who wrote it), but it definitely is a novel. There's a really great translation of it by Anthony Wu but it's out of print unless you can somehow find it on ebay or something. It's a great read.

And yes the two are based off of the same story. Though very loosely. Saiyuki contains more of the core characters though.

The novel called the Water Margin was the basis for the Suikoden games and subsequent manga. Senkaiden Houshin Engi, a Shonen Jump manga by Ryu Fujisaki, is loosely based on another novel from around the same period.
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Spotlesseden



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:23 pm Reply with quote
Fushigi Yuugi, but you may have saw the anime already.

DBZ has nothing to do with "Journey to the West" other than the names of some of the characters.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:56 am Reply with quote
Wow, nobody has said anything about Ikki Tosen yet. Or is that just based on history? Still, it's Chinese, with all the characters names being of that language.
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Subaru19



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:57 am Reply with quote
Spotlesseden wrote:
Fushigi Yuugi, but you may have saw the anime already.

DBZ has nothing to do with "Journey to the West" other than the names of some of the characters.


Not just names exactly. For all intents and purposes (at least in the beginning) Son Goku is a mischevious monkey just like Son Goku in the original story.

As for Fushigi Yuugi I suppose you could say that's loosely based on Yu Watase's mental version of Chinese history/mythology. ^__^ I don't know if the OP is looking for manga set in a fictional Chinese setting.
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Zetsuei



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:01 pm Reply with quote
Subaru19 wrote:
Spotlesseden wrote:
Fushigi Yuugi, but you may have saw the anime already.

DBZ has nothing to do with "Journey to the West" other than the names of some of the characters.


Not just names exactly. For all intents and purposes (at least in the beginning) Son Goku is a mischevious monkey just like Son Goku in the original story.

As for Fushigi Yuugi I suppose you could say that's loosely based on Yu Watase's mental version of Chinese history/mythology. ^__^ I don't know if the OP is looking for manga set in a fictional Chinese setting.

Please, DBZ's Son Goku is a gross bastardization of Sun Wukong.
They don't have anything in common besides a similar appearance.
And the book is based on stories that existed since the 6th century about the most famous Chinese monk that went to INdia to retrieve holy scriptures (there were a lot more and Hsuang Tsang wasn't the first).
I would actually cout it among Chinese mythology. It has lot of of that and for example the Younger Edda, the main source for Norse mythology, were created in the 13th century (while the Journey to the West existed orally since the 6th century).
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Subaru19



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:43 pm Reply with quote
Zetsuei wrote:
Please, DBZ's Son Goku is a gross bastardization of Sun Wukong.
They don't have anything in common besides a similar appearance.
And the book is based on stories that existed since the 6th century about the most famous Chinese monk that went to INdia to retrieve holy scriptures (there were a lot more and Hsuang Tsang wasn't the first).
I would actually cout it among Chinese mythology. It has lot of of that and for example the Younger Edda, the main source for Norse mythology, were created in the 13th century (while the Journey to the West existed orally since the 6th century).


Sure sure. Smile I guess that Toriyama overreached his boundaries. Smile

But I wonder if there's a greater difference between oral history, since Hsuan Tsang was an actual person, and mythology. And from what I understood, The Journey to the West was more a piece of popular fiction than a collection of myths from the century even though the author did choose to use gods such as Guanyin in his story.. But certainly it has recieved a myth/cultural status, far far beyond what the original author may have intended.
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mistress_reebi



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:42 pm Reply with quote
Spotlesseden wrote:
Fushigi Yuugi, but you may have saw the anime already.

DBZ has nothing to do with "Journey to the West" other than the names of some of the characters.


Yû Watase has recently created a prequel to the FY series. Fushigi Yûgi: Genbu Kaiden is the name. I've only read the first volume and I love it. So far, not as good as the original, but it's amazing.

EDIT:
Here is the link
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KyuuA4



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:47 pm Reply with quote
Zetsuei wrote:
Please, DBZ's Son Goku is a gross bastardization of Sun Wukong.


Well, the entire Dragonball series is full of extremities. Twisted Evil Laughing

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Zrana



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:48 am Reply with quote
Subaru19 wrote:
The novel called the Water Margin was the basis for the Suikoden games and subsequent manga. Senkaiden Houshin Engi, a Shonen Jump manga by Ryu Fujisaki, is loosely based on another novel from around the same period.


The manga is "Houshin Engi" while the anime is "Senkaiden Houshin Engi." There's no "Senkaiden" in the manga title.

Much like how "DragonBallZ" title is a name change that only occurs to the anime, while the original Japanese manga remains titled "Dragonball" to the end.

Anways, yes, Houshin Engi is full of stuff pulled from Chinese mythology. I'm unfamiliar with Chinese mythology, but when I played Dynasty Warriors 5 at a friend's house, I kept getting Houshin Engi flashbacks, even though the names were different for people and places.
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