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The Pro Wrestling-Shonen Anime Connection


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RoverTX



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:53 am Reply with quote
I hate Pro wrestling, but thought this was a great article! I always used to argue with my cousin when I was a kid which was better, Dragon Ball Z or Pro wrestling. Now that argument looks a little silly after reading this!

It is also amazing how many ways I have seen over the years that Goku can be tied to Japanese experience of post war reconstruction. Which gets even more interesting when Vegetta is thrown into the mix.
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Valhern



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:58 am Reply with quote
Well, that was really interesting. Till today I don't think I could ever tie the common shounen storyline that far in time, I could compare them with much older stories of old nations with certain resemblances or 70s/80s manga, but not with the cultural and historic load this article gives. Very good, really.

Still never cared about wrestling, used to when I was a kid, when they did a national wrestling show, it was THE thing around those days and I remember them fondly now. But never had an actual, special interest in it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:17 am Reply with quote
BEST ARTICLE OF ALL TIME
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:18 am Reply with quote
Now I want to see Goku suplex someone or do a flying press.

Thanks for the great article!
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SlamMan



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:31 am Reply with quote
I always noticed the similarities between pro wrestling and anime but my brother is a big wrestling fan who talks a lot about it and I grew up watching WWF (back in the 80s and early 90s when it was good fun). The fact that the first Manga I read and the first subtitled anime I ever watched was Kinnikuman also probably has something to do with it. I always enjoy seeing wrestling moves show up in anime, especially when it's one from Kinnikuman.
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Octorockandroll



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:38 am Reply with quote
I read this article and I loved it. It's almost making me want to get started on njpw despite the fact that I would have no idea as to what anyone is saying. This article made me very happy and I can see it has made many other people happy as well. I can hardly wait for the shojo/wrestling article.
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Walkbrass



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:00 am Reply with quote
Great article. The story of Rikidozan's death reminds me of another thing from Japanese media: the ending of Jetman. Same thing happens pretty much, and it's bothered me for a while, but I think I get why they did that now. Still don't like it though.
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Walkbrass



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:00 am Reply with quote
Great article. The story of Rikidozan's death reminds me of another thing from Japanese media: the ending of Jetman. Same thing happens pretty much, and it's bothered me for a while, but I think I get why they did that now. Still don't like it though.
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Anime World Order



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:01 am Reply with quote
Chojin Sentai Jetman is probably still my favorite of the sentai tokusatsu shows. I think it's because I first saw it via the Malaysian(?) English dub, which was exceedingly wacky because English was clearly the second language for everyone in the cast, but if memory serves only about half the series was dubbed into English. The melancholy final scenes of its last episode struck me as something influenced by Hong Kong action cinema from that era (Jetman came out in the early 1990s), which Japanese stunt teams and tokusatsu creators would certainly have awareness of. Still, the similarities to Rikidozan are indeed there!

Octorockandroll wrote:
I read this article and I loved it. It's almost making me want to get started on njpw despite the fact that I would have no idea as to what anyone is saying. This article made me very happy and I can see it has made many other people happy as well. I can hardly wait for the shojo/wrestling article.


You're in luck! The cable channel AXS TV (formerly known as HDNet) has been running noteworthy New Japan matches with English language commentary since last year (the interviews and in-ring promos are kept in the original Japanese but subtitled in English), and quite a few major cable providers do carry that channel. The episodes air on Fridays. At first, the play-by-play was handled by noteworthy boxing/MMA announcer Mauro Renallo, but since he is now employed by the WWE, as of last month the currently play-by-play duties are now being handled by Jim Ross, whom many consider the greatest professional wrestling announcer of our generation. Color commentary is by Josh Barnett, who was a famous MMA fighter as well as NJPW performer, so if you want to know who all these unfamiliar faces are and why they're doing what they're doing that show's an excellent primer.
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Octorockandroll



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:15 am Reply with quote
Anime World Order wrote:
Chojin Sentai Jetman is probably still my favorite of the sentai tokusatsu shows. I think it's because I first saw it via the Malaysian(?) English dub, which was exceedingly wacky because English was clearly the second language for everyone in the cast, but if memory serves only about half the series was dubbed into English. The melancholy final scenes of its last episode struck me as something influenced by Hong Kong action cinema from that era (Jetman came out in the early 1990s), which Japanese stunt teams and tokusatsu creators would certainly have awareness of. Still, the similarities to Rikidozan are indeed there!

Octorockandroll wrote:
I read this article and I loved it. It's almost making me want to get started on njpw despite the fact that I would have no idea as to what anyone is saying. This article made me very happy and I can see it has made many other people happy as well. I can hardly wait for the shojo/wrestling article.


You're in luck! The cable channel AXS TV (formerly known as HDNet) has been running noteworthy New Japan matches with English language commentary since last year (the interviews and in-ring promos are kept in the original Japanese but subtitled in English), and quite a few major cable providers do carry that channel. The episodes air on Fridays. At first, the play-by-play was handled by noteworthy boxing/MMA announcer Mauro Renallo, but since he is now employed by the WWE, as of last month the currently play-by-play duties are now being handled by Jim Ross, whom many consider the greatest professional wrestling announcer of our generation. Color commentary is by Josh Barnett, who was a famous MMA fighter as well as NJPW performer, so if you want to know who all these unfamiliar faces are and why they're doing what they're doing that show's an excellent primer.


Really now? That's pretty cool, but I'm not sure my cable service provider has that channel. I'll be sure to check though. I would definitely like to watch it, but I'm sure it would be pretty expensive unfortunately. Plus what I would really like is to keep up with the shows closely as they're happening, although I doubt a crunchyroll equivalent for wrestling is likely to pop up sadly.
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Souther



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:34 am Reply with quote
Sorry I don't have much to say, but I just wanted to say this was a wicked article, thanks for this. Bonus points for mentioning Daigo vs Lupe haha.
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yuusha



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:41 am Reply with quote
Simple fact, without All Japan Women's Professional Wrestling aka AJW, we wouldn't have The Dirty Pair!
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NearEasternerJ1





PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:18 pm Reply with quote
Rikidozan isn't Japanese. He's South Korean. Never forget that.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:18 pm Reply with quote
Japanese pro wrestling? Anime? Post-WWII politics and culture? Thanks for tailoring articles to my exact tastes, ANN. Looking forward to the shojo manga/joshi puroresu article.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:44 pm Reply with quote
This
asdqweiop wrote:
BEST ARTICLE OF ALL TIME

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yuusha wrote:
Simple fact, without All Japan Women's Professional Wrestling aka AJW, we wouldn't have The Dirty Pair!

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jtron wrote:
Japanese pro wrestling? Anime? Post-WWII politics and culture? Thanks for tailoring articles to my exact tastes, ANN.

-some!

Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap

My present state of excitement is hardly negligible, to put things mildly.

Daryl Surat wrote:
Certainly, the easy examples of the latter are pro wrestling characters derived from anime such as Tiger Mask, Jushin Liger, or Mushiking Terry, but for my money's worth the circle best looped around with regards to classic shojo anime and Japanese women's wrestling circa the 1970s and 1980s. But that's another story, the telling of which depends on how many of you actually cared to get this far!

With all of my otherwise-modest heart Daryl, I beg you to write this. We are both Zenjo fans, and there are plentiful OVA series with direct joshi connections. The potential for delightfully alienating inside jokes is quite limitless.
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