Forum - View topicAnime Packaging
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Jih2
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Has anyone else noticed how almost every other form of media sold in disc form doesn't fall out of the thing that holds the disc in place during shipping? Another thing: why do the licensing companies in the US think that we want complete collections in which the discs overlap? I just got the Trinity Blood Complete Collection and I was rather disappointed. The same thing happened when I bought Berserk and The 12 Kingdoms sets. How can we change this? Is it all a money trap so we all buy the individual discs?
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HMMcKamikaze
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I can't say anything about discs falling out since I've never experienced that, but I personally don't mind when discs overlap. It means the case is much thinner and it saves more space. It's not only that way with anime releases though. I have the Pink Panther film collection where the discs overlap and while it's a minor inconvenience when I want to get the one that's underneath, I don't consider it much of a problem.
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Jih2
Posts: 403 Location: East coast |
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I have more trouble wit the discs overlapping and damaging one another if moved around too much and thus I used to store them in a huge DVD binder but now I'm back to having them in their original cases and it ticks me off. Regarding the thinner size: why not just release a thinpack? Is it really that much more expensive?
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Monster in a box
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The only time I've had an anime DVD that wasn't in it's holder was FLCL volume 1, which I bought from Suncoast, and it looked like it had been tampered with aside from it not being in it's holder.
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selenta
 Subscriber Posts: 1774 Location: Seattle, WA |
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I've never had a disc that fell out of the holder, but I've heard a number of people mention that. I doubt it is something specific to anime, and more likely the percentage of DVD sales over the net that have to get shipped individually, as I don't see any physical differences in cases between anime and non-anime DVDs.
As for the discs overlapping, I assume you mean where the discs several discs are kept on a sort of spool within the case and touch each other by design (I've never seen one, but I think I know what you're talking about). Yes, that irritates me quite a bit; I don't care how cheap the collection was, there's no need for the manufacturer to go out of their way to make it feel cheaper. One of the main reasons I own official copies is so that I have a longer life expectancy on the discs. I would never knowingly buy a collection where the discs are kept of a spool. |
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Jih2
Posts: 403 Location: East coast |
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Then why don't I ever have this problem with videogames in disc format? I also order almost all of my anime online so I'm sure that plays into it. I think that it depends on the company and to what popularity the series is being shipped out to. Example: the "Read or Die" individual discs and the "Death Note" discs are very well kept and judging by the type of 'spool' that holds the discs in place they are of high value. I also like it when they use the SAME 'spool' for each and every volume which a number of series I own haven't done. This whole thing irks me. |
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Dargonxtc
 Posts: 4463 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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I believe the word your looking for is "hub". I also don't like how they change styles of hubs throughout the series, however I think that has more to do with the company that actually does the production. As for ROD, mine used two types of hubs, an unnamed one, and a Scanavo one. I hate Scanavo  . Sure they hold the discs, but can also hold them too tight making it easy to damage your disc. I haven't had to many problems with loose discs, and I order most of my anime online. Besides the standard Scanavo case which I hate, there is one Scanavo case that seems to produce loose discs. It is the Scanavo - 2/One Overlap™ - 30mm. Often used in condensed collections, where the single layer case seems to hold the disc without mercy, the overlap case can't seem to hold any. Reason? The hubs are thin and brittle and break easy, often arriving broken. And if they aren't broken, they can snap without warning. Once that is done, the disc is only but hanging on the hub.
I don't mind disc case overlaps, just ones that work both as holders, and releasers. Which hubs do I like the best? I would say either M-lock or Amaray with side disc protection. |
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Veoryn87
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It's not just the anime companies. The Avatar: The Last Airbender set is the same way. As for discs falling out of the cases..... It's happened to me before, but it's mainly only for the ones that I order online. I only had it happen to me once for a dvd I bought in a store. |
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violented16
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I've only had one anime disc not on the hub when I opened the case (FMA disc 12).
Although I have had a lot of other disc's be loose in the cases. The latest one was Transformers 2 disc collection, both discs were loose and fell on the floor when I opened it since I didn't hear the rattle. I even had a game be loose (pc game) in those new thick cases with the stupidly tall hub made for 5 discs even though you only get one (which is stupid imo). But ya my Blazing Angels 2 was loose in the case somehow and as in all my loose disc's it wasn't scratched. *note: Transformers & Blazing Angels 2 were bought from Best Buy so they weren't mailed to me.* As far as the overlapping thing goes, it doesn't bother me. But as others have said, Shelf space is always nice. |
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indrik
 Posts: 365 Location: yonder |
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I've had a fair bunch of dvds off the hubs, not just anime, but a larger percentage of anime. I've only had to return two for being scratched, though. I had a real problem for a while with cds with the clear plastic cases having broken hubs, and sometimes being scratched because of it, which is weird, because the cds should be harder than the cases. But that seems to have been mostly fixed.
What's been hurting my head lately is that I've bought thousands of cds, and only seen two defective ones. I'm in the hundreds of dvds, and I've seen three defective, and they were all anime, and two of them were Pioneer/Geneon. The other was in the Twelve Kingdoms box set. I mean, I know it's not enough for a statistically valid sample or anything, but I wonder if anime dvds are defective more often, or if dvds are defective more often than cds. |
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Porcupine
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I agree with Jih and indrik. I feel that the loose disc problem is worse for anime than most other genres of DVD. I think the domestic anime companies should do a better job in general.
The Avatar example above I would not say is a good counter-example. That's a cartoon itself, if anything one could count it as "anime" for this thread even though it may not really be an anime. I rarely find loose, clanging copies of Star Wars or Spider-Man in the store. In some cases, anime releases have been plagued with batches of loose discs. The worse case I know of was Geneon's Fate/Stay Night Vol. 1 DVD with artbox. About 50% to 66% of all copies produced had loose discs inside. It was a problem with an entire production batch, that should never have passed a quality inspection. Another thing I have noticed or suspect is that loose discs are generally NOT the result of being tossed around during shipping, if you order online. I have seen (heard, actually) many, many loose anime DVDs in the real-life stores. The advantage to buying in real life though is that you can hear most loose DVDs and thus avoid them, and also return them easier in case you still get one. Generally when discs are loose I think they are that way to begin with when the store gets them. Online stores may want you to think that it is not their fault and that the discs come loose while shipping, but I don't buy into that. When I get loose discs from online orders I assume it was already loose when they put it in the box (unless my mail package arrives looking like a bomb exploded in it, which hasn't happened to me before for anime). |
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Veoryn87
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While getting loose discs is annoying and really says something about the quality of the packaging, no damage has been caused to any of the discs I got, so it hasn't been a big deal so far.
I used Avatar as an example because it's not distributed by any of the Anime distributing companies here in America. |
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MorwenLaicoriel
 Posts: 1617 Location: Colorado |
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The only loose disc I've ever had was actually a non-anime release--my parents got me Stranger Than Fiction for Christmas from Amazon, and when I opened the package the disc was loose in the package. (Of course, I also forgot to pull off the last bit of security tape when I tried to open the package, so that might've been more me being stupid and forcing the disc off the hub with my struggling with the box...)
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