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tintor2
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Two remakes now? Is Toei that ashamed of Super's quality?
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penguintruth
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The art/animation doesn't seem to be significantly improved.
I feel bad, in a sense, for Masako Nozawa and Sean Schemmel, and the rest of both casts, for having to redo the same dialogue for a third (or more) time. I guess a paycheck is a paycheck, but don't waste 89 year old Nozawa's time on old material. |
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veemonjosh
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In fairness, how many times have they recorded the Saiyan through Buu sagas now, between Z, Kai, and 25 years worth of video games? Redoing the same dialogue over and over is nothing new for them |
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Riku157
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Why two? Isn't it just one? Super's original version was mostly just a television version of what happened in the movies, if I remember correctly. Unless you're referring to something else. |
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BadNewsBlues
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Do you recall how some of those episodes that comprised Battle Of The gods was animated. |
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EmeraldSaucer
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Toei threatening the audience with a tease for another version of Resurrection F
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Nionel
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I'm actually interested to see how they'd recut Resurrection F, since Toyotaro skipped it in the manga adaptation.
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residentgrigo
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20th Century Fox Japan distributed BoG to Broly, so there might be a rights issue Toei didn´t want to deal with when they chose which footage to use as the source for the remaster/remake, as the film's continuity issues can be easily fixed. The whole TV run will likely be recut and touched up. The manga´s Goku Black arc, the first time the manga began to act as its own product instead of a promotional tie-in, has little to do with the anime version, and the Universe Survival arc is also different enough, aside from having reasonable pacing. What will Toei do here? Who knows but Goku and Vegata have different powers in the manga starting about then. That carries over to the 2 exclusive arcs that are set to be animated, so you either fix this now, or stick to the anime continuity powers down the line. The video games license the anime, so Ultra Ego and whatnot remain stuck in the V-Jump vault. The DBS multimedia line is easily the biggest mess coming out of Jump/Toei in the 2010s.
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tintor2
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I mean Battle of Gods and Resurrection F being remade.
The screenplay of the original Resurrection F was completely made by Toriyama. Toyotaro was never involved there |
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Mushrinku
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Lol at thinking they care about that. this is all about redoing the same slop over and over and over again because dragon ball z fanbase is one of the most braindead fan base in the industry. they eat whatever slop given to them for the millionth time, with passion. This is all about milking the money machine. nothing else. |
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chronos02
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Looks like someone didn't see the fan reaction when this "remake" was announced during the event. The reception was icy cold, with the VAs having to forcefully "pump up" the audience. It was one of, if not the most badly received announcements for dragon ball in decades.
Not sure what Toei was thinking with this one, and if, as some of you say, this was made to avoid rights issues with some of the movie cuts reused in the original run of the TV version, I'm pretty sure an OAV version would have been a better idea than an entire "season" (is this 1 or 2 cours?). Overseas, the reactions to the sequel were also very much icy cold, almost felt like a funeral, while others were quite angry and/or dismissive of the whole thing. But of course, I'm pretty sure there are some people happy with this, though I honestly do not know why, we already have the movie, and the vastly inferior TV adaptation that was stretched like old mochi. If Toei had to do something, it should have been like the One Piece East Blue thing by WIT Studio, but with everything in Super after Frieza's arc and before the Multiverse tournament, because my god... anyway, that would really benefit from a remake. Maybe spacing it out like the current OP would work as well, 12 episodes every other cour, or 26 every half a year (or 1 every 2 weeks?). Regardless, I will be waiting for when they decide to continue Super, if they do that... until then, my interest is honestly quite low. |
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MKVarana
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I'm not sure what the hate is for this, personally.
They announced the Moro Arc at the same time, and I assume different people are working on the two projects, so it's not like this is at the expense of new content. With that in mind, I see giving us a more "definitive" version of the original Super arcs as a positive thing, and a nice way to fill in the gap while they make the new stuff. |
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Riku157
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Ah, I understand now. I figured when this was announced that they were going to go all the way and not just stop at Beerus' arc so Freeza's tease didn't shock me since I thought that was always the plan. Easy to get more money that way.
It's because there were movies for both of the first two arcs, TV adaptations of those arcs, and now they're being "remade" a short time after Super ended. It's pretty much unneeded/pointless. It's not that people are concerned that they aren't focusing on adapting the rest of the material. Unless they put so much effort into this that it beats the movies that were already made (which aren't poorly animated) there isn't much positive here. Reanimating the Goku Black arc to movie quality would make more sense, and even that's pushing it. |
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MKVarana
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I'm not sure if it was just a rumor or not, as I forget the source, but I had it in my head that I heard somewhere that they were doing all of Super with this new version. The Freeza tease at the end of this trailer supports that, though. And if they're redoing the rest of the series, skipping the first 2 arcs just because they had movies beforehand would leave a hole in the adaptation, in my opinion, just like how the manga feels broken with the holes for RoF and Broly in it. Plus, we don't yet know if any of the changes they mention will be relevant for future arcs or not. |
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Riku157
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I was under the impression it'd be the full thing, but I don't think it was ever said it would be the entire thing. I also don't think many people would care about the "hole". Most Dragonball fans wouldn't care about that since they already have the original, and will just consume it since "Dragon ball". Even for the manga, it would have been nice for Toyotaro to do a full adaptation for the Freeza arc (since he had the better writing/consistency/understanding for each of the arcs/characters in my opinion), but it was only with the tournament afterwards where he actually started fully doing his own thing/adaptation. It was pretty much just promotional stuff before that. That's why Freeza could be skipped since the assumption was people watched it. |
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