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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 4:21 pm Reply with quote
Anyone know anything about Bubblegum Crisis 2032 ? Any information would be helpful!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 4:26 pm Reply with quote
http://www.animeigo.com/Products/CRISIS.html

2032 is just Bubblegum Crisis (no year after it). Then it's Bubblegum Crash (three episodes). Then it's Bubblegum Crisis 2040.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 4:35 pm Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 6:03 pm Reply with quote
And then it's Bubblegum Crisis 2041. I really wonder what they're going to do with that one...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:29 pm Reply with quote
Bubblegum Crisis info? GLADLY!

Beyond being a not-too veiled homage to Blade Runner (Priss's band is named the Replicants, for the love of Naka {Yuji Naka-creator of Sonic}) Bubblegum Crisis was also the career jumping off point for both Kenichi Sonoda (who later went on to create the popular Gunsmith Cats manga/OAV) and one of the mecha designers went on to father a little revolutionary series called Tenchi Muyo. Honest! I forget who it was (not Taro Maki, I recall that). Seriously, though. Tenchi's creator was a lesser member of the animation staff. For proof, look at two things: Ryoko's face in the early OAV; she and Linna look nearly identical in facial shape and expression and Mihoshi's mecha suit in the first episode of Tenchi TV; it's admittedly nearly a direct copy of a Knight Saber hardsuit.

While important by those standards alone, Crisis remains a yardstick of anime style long into its lifetime. Its music, action, and characters have proven more lasting than many of its other contemporary, more serious, series. Even the dub soundtrack has its high points (I think that Hurricane was redone well, Mr. Dandy was rancid though.) Nowadays, we take for granted a lot that Bubblegum Crisis brings to the table. Stellar highway chases? Got it. Giant evil corporation? Right here. (Microsoft before Microsoft, that's Genom) Honestly, though some say that it has been surpassed by its remake, Bubblegum Crisis 2040, that series had none of the charm, originality, or whimsical self-deprecating humor that has kept the original a perennial favorite amongst fans.

Besides, Sylia Stingray drives a teched-up Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing and runs a ladies' lingerie shop. How much cooler than that can you get?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2002 11:58 pm Reply with quote
The only thing I can say about Bubblegum Crisis (OVA) is…watch 2040 instead. I know I know, there are plenty of people out there who prefer the original to the TV series and I apologize to all of you. You have to admit it though, the original was pretty disjointed and just seemed to be a bunch of episodes thrown together instead of a series.

I thought 2040 did a much better job of fleshing out (no pun intended) the characters and story line. I even liked the character designs better. I give the OVA due credit…it wasn’t bad, I just liked 2040 better.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 2:46 am Reply with quote
Cassandra wrote:

2032 is just Bubblegum Crisis (no year after it). Then it's Bubblegum Crash (three episodes). Then it's Bubblegum Crisis 2040.


Indeed. Actually, if I remember correctly, we leave the year 2032 behind pretty early in the series. After the battle with Mason (episode 3), the subtitle actually changes from "Megatokyo 2032" to "Megatokyo 2033".

Crash's subtitle is "Megatokyo 2034".

Dan42 wrote:

And then it's Bubblegum Crisis 2041. I really wonder what they're going to do with that one...


And there's another new one on the way called Parasite Dolls, or something, that's completely different isn't there?

Lessee if I can pull up that article...

Eureka!
animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=2607

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It has also been confirmed by both David Williams and Matt Greenfield that Bubblegum Crisis 2041 is NOT the same as Parasite Dolls. BGC 2041 is, in actuality, a continuation of 2040, and has no relation whatsoever to PD.


Couldn't find it right away... It's not cataloged very well. Thank Dan42 for the Encyclopedia. Anime smallmouth


And of course, we can't forget the original sidestory Tales of the AD Police, and Tokyo 2040's sidestory AD Police...

I'm anxiously awaiting the DVD rerelease of the former myself (to complete my collection Very Happy ), but AnimEigo's customer support staff informs me that it won't happen until at least next year...
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Saxton wrote:

I thought 2040 did a much better job of fleshing out (no pun intended) the characters and story line. I even liked the character designs better. I give the OVA due credit…it wasn’t bad, I just liked 2040 better.


I'd say that they each served their purpose. Tokyo 2040 was a TV series, whereas the original was a traditional one-episode-per-tape OVA.

Further to the original's credit, I think that its episodic nature is one of its charms. It uses that quality to its advantage to show humanity interacting and even interfusing with technology for many different reasons and in many different ways. In my opinion, that is part of the reason why the original series so often seems to surpass the cheap-mecha-action blow-stuff-up stereotype, and why Tokyo 2040 seems to fall victim to it more often than not.

Granted, the original isn't nearly as pretty (in every sense of the term) or as modern as 2040. But the grittiness of it all goes hand in hand with the type of series BGC is; and the dated pop culture is really just a matter of mindset. I supposed it could be compared to how theater buffs continue to sing the praises of Westside Story, despite the fact that the culture it reflects is so defunt that the play has almost no practical value anymore.

I agree wholeheartedly that they are both good series in their own right, but I think it's certainly worth noting that they are good for entirely different reasons.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 2:55 am Reply with quote
Cassandra wrote:

http://www.animeigo.com/Products/CRISIS.html

2032 is just Bubblegum Crisis (no year after it). Then it's Bubblegum Crash (three episodes). Then it's Bubblegum Crisis 2040.


Not Quite. 2040 is not a sequel to BGC (2032) and BGC! (2034), it's an altertane re-telling.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 7:11 am Reply with quote
I wasn't really saying it was a sequel....just the sequential order. BGC takes place first in 2032, then BGC! takes place in 2034, then BGC2040 takes place in 2040.

I haven't seen 2040 yet to have an opinion on it. But I really liked BGC.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 10:47 am Reply with quote
Cassandra wrote:

I wasn't really saying it was a sequel....just the sequential order. BGC takes place first in 2032, then BGC! takes place in 2034, then BGC2040 takes place in 2040.


True, but at the same time, you could say that 2040 takes place earlier than 2034. The story actually takes place earlier in the career of the Knight Sabers.

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I haven't seen 2040 yet to have an opinion on it. But I really liked BGC.


You should. It doesn't have quite all the raw feeling of the original, but it was better planned (seng as how it was actually completed this time around) and features some interesting explantions for the questions left unanswered in the first series. Of course, the anwers of 204 don't necesarlly hold true for 2032-34
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:22 pm Reply with quote
I watched the first episode of the original and decided that life is too short to waste on this stuff. Then I watched the first tape of 2040 because it was written by the guy who did Serial Experiments Lain. Ehn.

I mean hey, enjoy what you enjoy, but c'mon. I could forgive it for playing a part in the creaton of (eccchhh) Tenchi, but judging from the first episode, it was nothing but formula, formula, formula sprinkled with genre accoutrements. Isn't that what's wrong with anime?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 1:29 pm Reply with quote
Going back to 2040 Vs. OAV... I didd like 2040 a bit better because it had more of a story. HOWEVER, one of my favorite anime episodes (BTW, we need to start a list of favorite anime episodes one of these days) is Double Vision from the OAV
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 4:46 pm Reply with quote
Aaron White wrote:

I mean hey, enjoy what you enjoy, but c'mon. I could forgive it for playing a part in the creaton of (eccchhh) Tenchi, but judging from the first episode, it was nothing but formula, formula, formula sprinkled with genre accoutrements. Isn't that what's wrong with anime?


I really wasn't happy with the first couple of episodes of 2040... it did start out, as you say, formula, formula, formula. But I found that it improved as it went on because the actual story cohesiveness was very good. Perhaps it was because, as a BGC fan in general, it was very nice to finally get a series that addressed to one biggest problem with the original.

Unfortunately it also lacked the biggest strengths of the original. Originality and raw emotional content.
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SuperSkylineGTR wrote:

(BTW, we need to start a list of favorite anime episodes one of these days)


Actually, I'm not a big fan of the favorite lists.

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