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kusanagi-sama
Posts: 1723 Location: Wichita Falls, TX |
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Nagisa
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Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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Anybody know where to find scanlations for the series past volume 10?
Yeah, I don't normally advocate fansubs & scanlations over the official domestic release, but Toei and now DC Comics have made my Shit List. Not even 4Kids managed to sink that low. |
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midori kou
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A lot of the TenTen scanlations have been removed off the net since the announcement of DC/CMX buying the rights to it.
Personally, I think it's nothing to get overwhelming upset about. There are certain issues in American publication that most people are not aware of. Even if it was unedited, it's pretty much like porn/hentai/insert whatever term you like here. Even if it was shrinked-wrap, the fact is it's the same. It's being sold at general bookstores, comic books stores, etc. However it's adult material and general adult material is usually associated with porn or hardcore violence. If you look at all the books at Borders or Waldenbooks, they have material that the general majority would enjoy even those with controversial issues. For instance, written works by Poppy Z. Brite would involve homosexuality or cannibalism of murdered gay victims. However, it's not told in a step-by-step procedure to the smallest detail which allows it to be on the shelves as the way it is. Consquently, Tenjo Tenge illustrate sexual scenes to the greatest detail to what some people would believe may teach readers to act this way. The less information shown, the less people would learn from what they read. I think that was the main concern that lead to the edits. After all, they can't stop certain teens from buying it online even if it is wrapped in plastic and I don't think they don't want to be held responsible to avoid additional hate mail from not only the hardcore TenTen fans but any noob's parents who buys it for their kid. There is a lot of debatable issues about how they handle the manga, but you have to remember what kind of society we live in. There are fundamentalists of every kind, some who do the extreme to accomplish something. It's kinda dangerous to touch that area. |
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darkhunter
Posts: 2992 Location: Los Angelas |
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Come on now, you know it's against the rules. It's setting a bad example for everyone else. |
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Nagisa
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Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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Of course, and were this a proper release I'd have DC's back like I often do with ADV, FUNimation, 4Kids, Bandai, Geneon, etc. But this isn't like ADV offering an uncut property at 2 episodes per disc at below regular MSRP, and this isn't like 4Kids taking a children's show and cleaning it up to match the same demographic. This is blatant censorship that the existing fanbase was never made aware of until the day of release. This is the sort of shit we had to put up with nearly a decade ago, and the domestic industry SHOULD have long grown out of it. We don't need to put up with one company doing things ass-backwards anymore.
Protesting an unacceptable release by encouraging people to hit DC where they'll feel it most (their pockets) doesn't seem like a "bad" example necessarily. This isn't 1998, this shouldn't be happening, and we shouldn't have to put up with it. Last edited by Nagisa on Tue May 17, 2005 12:23 am; edited 1 time in total |
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kusanagi-sama
Posts: 1723 Location: Wichita Falls, TX |
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Why? What happened in 1998? |
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Cloe
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Posts: 2728 Location: Los Angeles, CA |
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The "dark age" of American-published manga. |
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Nagisa
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Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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Yeah, censorship like what's being seen with Tenjou Tenge was much more commonplace, if not worse. That does not need to be revisited.
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kusanagi-sama
Posts: 1723 Location: Wichita Falls, TX |
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Tell me, of some of the things that occured in this dark age. Oh, and DC comics is an entirely different animal than the rest of the manga industry. Their primary business focus is to produce, distribute and sell American comics (Spiderman, Superman, Batman, ect). Because of this, they still have that mindset that even if it is a manga, it should only be marketed to kids, like the mindset that animation is for kids. Don't get it wrong here, I don't support them for what they are doing to Tenjho Tenge. If fact I don't believe in censorship because it is others telling us how to think and not think for ourselves (and oddly enough, I'm a fundamental independant Baptist). HOWEVER There is a time and place for everything, and due to the type of society we live in, this is sometimes necessary. |
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darkhunter
Posts: 2992 Location: Los Angelas |
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That doesnt' change the fact that you're asking for fanscan because you feel displease with a product. That's the same reason why many people are downloading scan and abusing it. They use some lame excuse like "it's going to take forever or DH to release Berserk". Or you can think of it like someone asking for Gantz's fansub because they feel ADV did a horrible job at releasing it. You can't justified yourself by doing wrong to person because you felt they did something bad to you. Asking for fanscan on the forum will encourage other people to ask for other different fanscan for different series, that's why it's setting a bad example on this forum. There are other ways to show your displeasement with the product. Boycotting, yes I encourage everyone to boycotte TenTen, but DC own the license to it, and you should respect it or else just buy the japanese tanks and get translation. Oh Great would rather have you buy the edited version than to illegaly download his shit. I don't condone ripping someone off just because you felt ripped off. That's also abusing fansc |
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Captain Crotchspike
Posts: 355 Location: Phoenix, AZ |
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While they're the only ones I know of to still carry the Comics Code stamp on a few of their titles, they're not that completely stupid. While this decision doesn't reflect that, it's safe to say that plenty of the folk at DC (if not all) are very well aware that comics don't sell to kids these days.
This isn't a show being edited to air on basic cable at 7:00 PM, this is a comic book. It's not as if they have to go through the FCC and nobody even cares about the CCA anymore (hell, it's not as if they haven't ignored them in the past, even before everyone else said "Screw the CCA"). We simply shouldn't have to be dealing with this kind of crap anymore. It isn't necessary. But anyway, Darkhunter is very right: If you're really a ultra-super hardcore fan, you'll buy the original. You can even do it through Diamond Comics now, so you can easily preorder it at your local comic book store. |
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Godaistudios
Posts: 2075 Location: Albuquerque, NM (the land of entrapment) |
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As a born again Christian, I take a similar vent on that. I also see it as imposing a false sense of morality... as if covering up immorality somehow makes it go away. |
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SnowfairyX
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Even if I was interested in the Tenjho Tenge manga, I would never purchase it if it is as heavily edited as you guys say. I would learn how to read Japanese and purchase the original manga if I was really that fanatical over the series.
The only manga I care about being licensed and unedited is the rest of Shadow Star: Narutaru. I am doubtful that this manga series will be unedited even if some company does decide to license it, which even that is highly unlikely. I don't even know for sure if it is even legal to purchase this series while I'm living in the U.S. |
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Godaistudios
Posts: 2075 Location: Albuquerque, NM (the land of entrapment) |
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Dark Horse... manga#1337 and from a poster on AnimeOnDVD:
You can always (quite legally I may add) import the original Japanese manga instead... |
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SnowfairyX
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Thank you very much for the info! |
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