Forum - View topicNEWS: Anime on Blu-Ray
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Chrno2
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Well, here we go another upgrade for modern technology that will force people to keep buying that same movies over and over. "Because we have to make it better!"
Actually I just got through reading an article on this a couple of days ago. Two formats 'Blu-Ray' and HD DVD. It was only a matter of time. Of course you'll realize people won't be able to play these discs until they release the hardware to play them Tis the way of the technological world. 
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xstylus
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[Yawn] I'm not going anywhere near it until someone finds a way to neuter all the DRM in it. I don't buy what I can't control.
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Tenchi
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Agreed about the DRM, but I'm also not bothering until the format war is over and until I get an HDTV television, which won't be for quite some time yet.
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RyoShin
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Hardware for both Blu-ray and HD DVD are due out this year.
Also, the PlayStation 3 will come equipped with a Blu-ray drive. Since most hollywood studios are backing both formats, I see all movies coming out on either Blu-ray or HD DVD, and then also on regular DVD. I mean, they are still putting out movies on VHS. Perhaps they should wait for one deprecated format to die off before trying to kill another. I give the format war two years. By then, one format will reign supreme, or both will fail. I'm hoping for the later (and I think it can happen, as I believe the whole "HDTV" thing isn't nearly as popular as companies are claiming), but if one does win, I hope it's HD DVD. As stated, Blu-ray has horrible, horrible built in DRM. Not that HD-DVD lacks any kind of protection method, but they don't go to the extremes that Blu-ray does. |
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animaniac
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I hate DRM!
Anyway yes blu ray will be on ps3 and hd-dvd is supposed to work on xbox and I plan to buy both and already have an hd tv. Blu ray seems to be the best especially for we anime fans because from what I hear we are going to be in the same region as japan! I just wish it'd be as cheap as dvd tech has gotten I mean you know these players are gonna be expensive and same with the discs but dvds are like 10-20$ and the players sometimes are that cheap also! But I seriously doubt that with this new tech. |
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cyrax777
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I predict a huge major flop.
Its to early to do a major shift of tech. No reason to hell dvds are still new and just now already becoming the standard for movies. Other then Data I dont see a reason for bluray or even HD dvd. Most people I know dont even have a HD tv or plan to buy one unless there old tv craps out like me I dont plan to buy a new tv until my old one craps out. |
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v1cious
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how much more does Blu-ray hold than dvd?
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cyrax777
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Kazuki-san
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Yup, but the thing is Blu-Ray (potentially) will be able to encompass more then just dual layers. I believe TDK was the first to develop the 100 gig, 4 layer Blu-ray disc while Sony was the first to develop the 200 gig, 8 layer disc. |
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.hacker
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I see this as being the Beta vs. VHS situation all over again....
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Demaar
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As far as DRM is concerned, HD-DVD seems to be the way to go. Apparently the reason why they couldn't come to an agreement on a unified format is because HD-DVD has a number of legal copies you can do, while Blu-ray has no such feature.
Apparently Sony wasn't too keen on giving users the ability to make legal copies, and oddly this is why MS supports HD-DVD. |
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daxomni
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Well, on most current DVD players I can still play my old CD's from two decades ago. I don't see why I won't be able to play today's DVD's on future players decades from now. Dependability and longevity has actually improved with some of the newer technology, esp. compared to the VHS days when you sometimes had to re-buy the same movie on the same format after it got damaged in your VCR.
DVD's were cracked because they had very weak encryption by today's standards. The newer formats will be much more difficult to crack. OS and hardware vendors are getting in on the act to help ensure that protected content stays that way.
It's possible that both HD-DVD and BD will exist for years to come. Nobody seemed to learn much from the VHS vs. Betamax wars. The potential royalites from owning the patent to the eventual leading format are just too attractive to companies like Sony and Toshiba. Consumer needs are the last consideration.
We'll probably end up with some competing standards, just like how the rampant success of the Playstation 2 still wasn't able to kill off the original XBOX. The companies that are backing these formats are just too large to let them die easily. Also, even though DVD's looked great a few years ago, they look surprisingly poor compared to some of the higher-end HDTV content. Video content will continue to look better until we arrive at terabyte-level media.
Just because somebody accomplishes something in a lab or releases it to the professional market doesn't mean that it will be released as a consumer product. There are digital VCR's than can record HDTV content, but how many of them do you see in most stores today? Consumer BD's will probably max out around 50GB and HD-DVD's will be roughly half of that. Compared to the mid 1990's when we went from 1.4MB floppy disks to 650MB compact discs, this is a very small increase in percentage terms. Imagine going from a 10GB DVD to a 4,000GB BD. Now *that* would be a similar increase.
1. Neither format is 100% standardized just yet. They could both end up with nearly the same restrictions in the end. 2. Under US law, you can only make a legal copy if it doesn't involve breaking any DRM measures. Since all future DRM systems will prevent most forms of copying, there will no longer be such a thing as a "legal copy" in the US. At least, that's how I read the current laws. 3. You didn't explain why MS would be concerned about letting consumers make copies. I'm sure MS has their reasons for supporting HD-DVD (namely that they already have most of the code written for such support as I understand it), but why it would be related to letting consumers make copies doesn't make any sense to me and it also doesn't match up with Microsoft's past history. |
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Mohawk52
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Betamax still exists. It's platform has largly been updated right up to the current 1080 HDTV format but the cassettes are virtually the same size and shape and are used in nearly every studio and TV broadcasting facility round the world today.
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Puppy Puncher
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I think it'd be pretty convenient to buy a whole series (Ex: Mobile Suit Gundam) and have it on much fewer disks.
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daxomni
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