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NEWS: AKB48 Founder Plans Japan48 Idol Group for Olympics, Phillipines Spinoff


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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:26 pm Reply with quote
Don't do it at the Olympics; that'd be a bad move.
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Fedora-san



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:52 pm Reply with quote
Doraemon and idols. 2020 Olympics will be great.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:53 pm Reply with quote
Why not USA48 also.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:32 pm Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
Don't do it at the Olympics; that'd be a bad move.


Or one that confuses viewers like with Hatsune Miku on David Letterman with the old fogeys watching thinking she was an animatronic.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:01 am Reply with quote
TarsTarkas wrote:
Why not USA48 also.

Heh, I doubt you'd find 48 oh-so-special snowflakes in this country willing to be 1/48th of a pop music group. Hard enough to find 2 or 3 willing to work together.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:32 am Reply with quote
leafy sea dragon wrote:
enurtsol wrote:

Don't do it at the Olympics; that'd be a bad move.

Or one that confuses viewers like with Hatsune Miku on David Letterman with the old fogeys watching thinking she was an animatronic.


Criticisms will come their way. The alpha girls that embody the Olympics aren't the type to be infantilized but rather be treated their age or more mature.
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fuuma_monou



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:40 am Reply with quote
"Phillipines" (double-L in the middle) in the headline should be "Philippines" (double-P in the middle).
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Stuart Smith



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:49 am Reply with quote
leafy sea dragon wrote:
Or one that confuses viewers like with Hatsune Miku on David Letterman with the old fogeys watching thinking she was an animatronic.


How embarrassing, though it'd be extremely arrogant, if not racist to try to insist Japan not to do something Japanese like enurtsol seems to be saying.

-Stuart Smith
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:59 pm Reply with quote
Stuart Smith wrote:

How embarrassing, though it'd be extremely arrogant, if not racist to try to insist Japan not to do something Japanese like enurtsol seems to be saying.


Hey, if they want to be scrutinized. Remember, in the Sochi Olympics, it was something Russian to be anti-display of anything homosexual, and look what that got them. For the upcoming Pyeongchang Olympics in South Korea, even though they have a long history of eating dog meat, wouldn't recommend they include it in showing off their culinary cuisine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:01 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, the idea behind Olymics ceremonies is to showcase things about the country that's internationally well-known and, more importantly, well-liked, or at least what people in other countries think of when that country comes to mind. The London one had beefeater soldiers, the Yellow Submarine, and Doctor Who stuff, for instance.

AKB48, while well-known within Japan's borders, is definitely obscure outside of it. That being said, I do notice Japanese entertainment businesses seem to have a pattern of assuming the outside world is exactly like Japan, like with Bandai Visual and such.
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Hoppy800



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:09 pm Reply with quote
What they should've done was go the Enka route or just went with traditional Japanese music.
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:50 pm Reply with quote
I'd agree--while J-pop did have some brief inroads into western culture via Shonen Knife and Puffy AmiYumi making songs for Cartoon Network, I don't think J-pop ever hit the global mainstream in any signficant way.

When Japan is depicted in western media, it's a land of uptight businessmen, lots of sushi and noodles (sometimes in styrofoam cups), Dragon Ball Z and Sailor Moon knockoffs, bamboo and tea, and neon signs in katakana. Maybe kaiju. Their national sport is sumo wrestling, and their music consists of either enka, kabuki sounds, or just a koto playing random notes slowly.

That being said, there is something in anime that DID permeate into western pop culture: Tokyo gets blown up a lot.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:54 pm Reply with quote
Shouldn't Japan be trying to break the stereotype of Japan being nothing but suchi, sumo wrestlers, and Enka music? J-pop and idols are a big part of Japanese culture, so showcasing it makes sense. Not doing it simply because westerners are unfamiliar with it isn't Japan's problem. This is a time to show westerners Japan is not that kind of outdated stereotype.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:02 pm Reply with quote
Not when it simply causes people to be confused, and when people don't understand what they're seeing, they tune out.

Other Olympics ceremonies are basically a showcase of that countries' stereotypes too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:49 am Reply with quote
leafy sea dragon wrote:


That being said, there is something in anime that DID permeate into western pop culture: Tokyo gets blown up a lot.


Anime probably took that idea from, you know, WWII
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