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DmonHiro



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:40 am Reply with quote
I'm with Luna on this one. DEAR GOD!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:53 am Reply with quote
I kinda feel the same when someone pronounces it “MAYNGUH” instead of “MAHNGUH.”
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"Hey, son, you know, Betty Boop is my waifi!"
"...you mean 'waifu'?"
"No, waifi, like 'wife I'd like to marry', right? What's the 'u' for?" (source)

I really liked the added detail of her needing both an engineering and mining degree. It's like how in early World of Warcraft a lot of people assumed you had to take herbalism if you wanted to be an alchemist, without realizing that you could also just buy all of your herbs from someone else.
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Kicksville



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:11 am Reply with quote
I remember a debate back in the ancient days of Gundam.com over what the plural of "Gundam" is, with examples such as "a flock of Gundam".

I think they resorted to using "Gundams" in a few of the English dubs. Cowards.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:12 am Reply with quote
LegitPancake wrote:
I kinda feel the same when someone pronounces it “MAYNGUH” instead of “MAHNGUH.”

Is the former pronunciation commonplace? I am aware of the 'a' from 'hat' being frequently deployed in such a word, but never the 'a' from 'bagel'.
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Coup d'État



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:34 am Reply with quote
Eh, I'd say that depends. When implementing foreign words into one's own language, one usually treats the word like a native one after a while. Hence, native grammar gets applied.

Following all the foreign grammar rules surrounding loan words would get tedious pretty fast, and you guys usually don't do it. Look at what you did to "Autobahnen", they didn't deserve to be "autobahns" either. However, that follows your rules, so obviously that's what you did. (Don't get me started on 'kindergarden' ...)

Criticizing this process is valid, I guess, but not if it's only applied to one specific source of loan words, but not others.

To be super-pedantic, I'd say the proper plural of 'Manga' would be 'Japanese comics' ...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:39 am Reply with quote
Zin5ki wrote:
LegitPancake wrote:
I kinda feel the same when someone pronounces it “MAYNGUH” instead of “MAHNGUH.”

Is the former pronunciation commonplace? I am aware of the 'a' from 'hat' being frequently deployed in such a word, but never the 'a' from 'bagel'.


Very basic Japanese vowels sounds:

a (ah, like 'ah ha!')
i (ii, 'feel')
u (uu, or 'cool')
e ('eh')
o ('oh', or 'told')

So the correct is actually "mah(n)gah' and there are no stress marks.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:29 pm Reply with quote
Ok, so silly question. The manga in her left hand is Fruits Basket, but I don't recognize the one in her right hand. What manga cover is that?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:49 pm Reply with quote
Zin5ki wrote:

Is the former pronunciation commonplace? I am aware of the 'a' from 'hat' being frequently deployed in such a word, but never the 'a' from 'bagel'.

Usagi-kun wrote:

Very basic Japanese vowels sounds:

a (ah, like 'ah ha!')
i (ii, 'feel')
u (uu, or 'cool')
e ('eh')
o ('oh', or 'told')

So the correct is actually "mah(n)gah' and there are no stress marks.


To add extra clarity (Usagi-kun is 100% correct), it is indeed the a from hat.
So not the A from dawn, neither day, but rather damn.
Mawnga is extremely common, and it doesn't sounds as bad as maynga, but it's still wrong.
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SejinPK



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:49 pm Reply with quote
So, what is the plural of "manga"?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:00 pm Reply with quote
SejinPK wrote:
So, what is the plural of "manga"?


The plural of manga is manga. Similar to deer, fish, moose, and probably other animal examples I'm forgetting.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:05 pm Reply with quote
wyntre_rose wrote:
Ok, so silly question. The manga in her left hand is Fruits Basket, but I don't recognize the one in her right hand. What manga cover is that?


Immortal Rain volume 7. A cruel recommendation, because the series was never fully released in English.
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Scalfin



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:17 pm Reply with quote
SejinPK wrote:
So, what is the plural of "manga"?


I'm going to claim it's "mangot" (long o) and there's not a one of you that can stop me!

Meanwhile, few people know that "anime" is actually the plural. The singular is "anima."
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fullmetalgirl21



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:26 pm Reply with quote
Yes, this! I always thought this was just me and I've never said anything because I figured I was weird. Glad to know I'm not the only one Very Happy

And yeah, it kills me whenever someone pronounces it "mayngah". I find it incredibly embarrassing that I started it pronouncing it that way...

I always wonder, though, if the proper pronunciation for "manga" is well known, how come we all pronounce "anime" with a short "A" instead of like "ahnime"?
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Emma Iveli



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:41 pm Reply with quote
Why doesn't she calmly explain to her about it... I mean come on, if you're going to be dating someone who isn't a fan (or at least hanging out with someone) wouldn't this be one of those cases of correcting someone.

Granted I've only dated one person and I don't interact with very many people so... maybe I'm wrong...
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