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Alex Dudok de Wit, Author of BFI Classics: Grave of the Fireflies




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FireChick
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:58 am Reply with quote
I keep reading conflicting reports about Takahata's intentions with Fireflies, and this doesn't help, either, but this web article I found (Japanese only): https://web.archive.org/web/20150818054904/http://www.kanaloco.jp/article/72742 says he didn't make the movie in order to guilt trip 80s teenagers at all. I don't know why people are still trying to push the idea that Takahata wanted to exploit a tragedy as a means to guilt-trip teenagers into respecting their parents, as the actual moral of the story is supposed to be that we need to empathize with people even when times are tough, as failure to do so can get others killed.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 12:14 pm Reply with quote
Well, I don't know what 'conflicting reports' you've read, but the author uses abundant direct quotes from Takahata in his book to support his case. In any case, 'guilt-trip teenagers into respecting their parents' is a gross distortion of what's said in the interview - the actual phrase was "think about how they live their lives." As for your "actual moral" of the story, I think you're selling the film way short.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 6:42 pm Reply with quote
This was a very insightful interview from both sides, thank you.

I've already ordered my copy. It is clear that Dudok de Wit is very knowledgable, way beyond the material available in English. I also agree that Takahata is severely underexplored in Western scholarly (and fan) circles. It's a shame that with the exception of some interviews and making-ofs, almost nothing of his extensive writings was translated.

I'm glad there's now one more book covering Takahata available. I'll read it attentively while rewatching the movie and Toshio Okada's "lectures". And while I'm at it, I could also read the Ghibli Textbook on Fireflies and the collection of Takahata's musings. Been meaning to do that for a while, but Takahata's scholarly style and extensive cross-referencing isn't an ease read.

But.not."getting" Takahata so easily is part of the fascination.
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 9:13 am Reply with quote
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But.not."getting" Takahata so easily is part of the fascination.


I suppose that is a valid point, and again, since lots of information on him and his intentions with Fireflies is untranslated, that probably contributes to why it's so hard to understand him.
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