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EP. REVIEW: NieR:Automata Ver 1.1a




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tintor2



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:19 pm Reply with quote
I don't know why but the Japanese actors give the characters a different feel from their English counterparts. Maybe it's because I find 9S more comedic with Natsuki Hanae's performance and the perfect English he has in the first bad ending when he says "Black box!" 2B kinda reminds me of Lightning from FF but more dynamic with the "younger" guy following her.

Also, the robots in episode 3.... they were f#.... Robots are cute!
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b-dragon



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:31 pm Reply with quote
I appreciated but didn't love Automata when I played through it a few years back. I'm interested to see just how far reaching these alterations will end up being, and how it affects people's enjoyment.
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KaidoYuji8Shinji



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:12 pm Reply with quote
Never played the game. Is it true that I can watch this and still find it enjoyable?
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WANNFH



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:23 pm Reply with quote
Well, yeah - by now while the adaptation totally keeps the atmosphere of the game with many important scenes, landscapes (props to the background team for really replicating the exact locations, where the fans totally can say "Yep, this is the exact spot") and Keichi Okabe beautiful musical accompaniment — it still can raise a question "is there a little bit more there than just adapting the game?" with its subtle changes, like Lily fully replaced Anemone from the game (but that can be a red herring by knowing Taro already done that with the stage plays) and mixing up the Plato 1728 story from the DLC with flowers short story from the Automata guidebook, and knowing how Taro loves to troll audience - it's very possible.

tintor2 wrote:
I don't know why but the Japanese actors give the characters a different feel from their English counterparts. Maybe it's because I find 9S more comedic with Natsuki Hanae's performance and the perfect English he has in the first bad ending when he says "Black box!"
Well, there is also the fact that it's already nearly 6 years from the release of the game, and Hana-chan during that time went from the "that guy who voiced Kaneki in Tokyo Ghoul" to the one heck of a massive funny entertainer (well, considering along his seiyuu work he's also one of the most popular Japanese Youtube content creators), and it really shines with this puppet comedy "bad ending" skits.

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2B kinda reminds me of Lightning from FF but more dynamic with the "younger" guy following her
Well, considering Yui Ishikawa voiced Mikasa from AoT, which was basically the same archetype as 2B...
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WANNFH



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:25 pm Reply with quote
KaidoYuji8Shinji wrote:
Never played the game. Is it true that I can watch this and still find it enjoyable?
Well, by now there is nothing that can stop you from enjoying the ride for sure with the story - while there are some subtle things that exist exactly to tickle the brains of the fans, it's still self-sufficient by now.
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meiam



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:27 pm Reply with quote
KaidoYuji8Shinji wrote:
Never played the game. Is it true that I can watch this and still find it enjoyable?


The game part of the game was by far the weakest aspect of the game, so it really just comes down to how good the anime soundtrack will be.
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OncelostLu



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:07 pm Reply with quote
meiam wrote:
KaidoYuji8Shinji wrote:
Never played the game. Is it true that I can watch this and still find it enjoyable?


The game part of the game was by far the weakest aspect of the game, so it really just comes down to how good the anime soundtrack will be.

While I don't necessarily disagree with this, the wording makes it sound like the gameplay isn't up to snuff. Which, it's actually pretty good. It's just the soundtrack and story are so outstanding, that pretty good gameplay isn't the same as outstanding gameplay.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:35 pm Reply with quote
OncelostLu wrote:
meiam wrote:
KaidoYuji8Shinji wrote:
Never played the game. Is it true that I can watch this and still find it enjoyable?


The game part of the game was by far the weakest aspect of the game, so it really just comes down to how good the anime soundtrack will be.

While I don't necessarily disagree with this, the wording makes it sound like the gameplay isn't up to snuff. Which, it's actually pretty good. It's just the soundtrack and story are so outstanding, that pretty good gameplay isn't the same as outstanding gameplay.


The gameplay isn't up to snuff. At best it can be called functional, just about any action game blow it out of the water. It's water downed platinum gameplay, so unless you've played every platinum game and DMC (and ninja gaiden and...) there's pretty much no reason to play automata if the anime turns out to be decent.
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WANNFH



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:56 am Reply with quote
meiam wrote:
The gameplay isn't up to snuff. At best it can be called functional, just about any action game blow it out of the water. It's water downed platinum gameplay, so unless you've played every platinum game and DMC (and ninja gaiden and...) there's pretty much no reason to play automata if the anime turns out to be decent.
Well, ain't that too hot take — considering both NieR games are known as prime examples of using the game as a medium to the max to tell its narrative on par with the Metal Gear series, and there is a way more narrative mechanics than just slashing things while enjoying the story that hard to be replicated — and even with a decent adaptation anime can be just a streamlined retelling of its main story at max and not give a full experience.
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TJ_Kat



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:09 am Reply with quote
What's really messing me up is that Yoko Taro has gone on record to say everything is canon so my brain keeps tripping over all the little differences that don't seem like they can coexist together (Lily/Anemone being the most obvious right now).
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Tanteikingdomkey



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:45 pm Reply with quote
TJ_Kat wrote:
What's really messing me up is that Yoko Taro has gone on record to say everything is canon so my brain keeps tripping over all the little differences that don't seem like they can coexist together (Lily/Anemone being the most obvious right now).

Hey make sure to go over the crossover material from Final Fantasy 14, babylions fall, the mobile game, and the others. They are also important remember
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Probablytomorrow



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:12 pm Reply with quote
KaidoYuji8Shinji wrote:
Never played the game. Is it true that I can watch this and still find it enjoyable?

The show so far seems to be perfectly fine for newcomers.
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TJ_Kat



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:18 pm Reply with quote
Tanteikingdomkey wrote:
Hey make sure to go over the crossover material from Final Fantasy 14, babylions fall, the mobile game, and the others. They are also important remember


Don't forget the pachinko game and the pamphlet handed out at the orchestral concert. I'm glad you understand my concerns Razz
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