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The Cutest
Joined: 04 Apr 2023
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:45 am |
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"Second prettiest"
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igiari21
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:56 am |
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One of those series that has the worst title on the planet but is actually kind of emotionally intelligent.
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Hellsoldier
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:51 am |
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| igiari21 wrote: | | One of those series that has the worst title on the planet but is actually kind of emotionally intelligent. |
Thanks for the clarification. I was getting ready to dismiss this work.
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PC 20XX
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:15 am |
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I'm guessing the whole 'second prettiest girl" part ties into what makes this series unique, because it sounds insanely generic.
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FilthyCasual
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:19 am |
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Oh nice, I like this one.
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kaiju3
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:44 am |
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| Quote: | | Maki Maehara is always on his own at school. He has no friends or hobbies others share, and he doesn't expect the upcoming academic year to be any different, even surrounded by new faces. |
Ugh. Not another one. I so miss the 80s, 90s and 00s male shonen protagonists, most of whom were reasonably to very successful at life including socially, and even the ones who weren't had backstories to explain it or at the very least was friends with the other outcasts. Or the point of the show was "starts out as a loser but puts in the hard work required to improve himself" like Kenichi The Mightiest Disciple, and even there Kenichi was in the gardening club and there was a girl who liked him. When did the shonen audience go from " be cool, competent and accomplished like this guy" to "you can get a beautiful girlfriend by being a friendless loser, though you should fully expect her to exploit her strengths and take advantage of your weaknesses by bossing and bullying you."
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Sekaro
Joined: 12 Nov 2018
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 11:11 am |
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| kaiju3 wrote: | | Quote: | | Maki Maehara is always on his own at school. He has no friends or hobbies others share, and he doesn't expect the upcoming academic year to be any different, even surrounded by new faces. |
Ugh. Not another one. I so miss the 80s, 90s and 00s male shonen protagonists, most of whom were reasonably to very successful at life including socially, and even the ones who weren't had backstories to explain it or at the very least was friends with the other outcasts. Or the point of the show was "starts out as a loser but puts in the hard work required to improve himself" like Kenichi The Mightiest Disciple, and even there Kenichi was in the gardening club and there was a girl who liked him. When did the shonen audience go from " be cool, competent and accomplished like this guy" to "you can get a beautiful girlfriend by being a friendless loser, though you should fully expect her to exploit her strengths and take advantage of your weaknesses by bossing and bullying you." |
This isn't even a shonen series (atleast I dont think) so why compare it to shonen protagonists? The MC seems to be yet another self-insert thats typical of these kinds of series.
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Heishi
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:07 pm |
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I dunno about alot of you, but I might look forward to this.
The premise sounds sweet enough.
I don’t see any problems with this so far, but we’ll wait and see.
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kaiju3
Joined: 02 Apr 2025
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:54 pm |
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| Sekaro wrote: | | kaiju3 wrote: | | Quote: | | Maki Maehara is always on his own at school. He has no friends or hobbies others share, and he doesn't expect the upcoming academic year to be any different, even surrounded by new faces. |
Ugh. Not another one. I so miss the 80s, 90s and 00s male shonen protagonists, most of whom were reasonably to very successful at life including socially, and even the ones who weren't had backstories to explain it or at the very least was friends with the other outcasts. Or the point of the show was "starts out as a loser but puts in the hard work required to improve himself" like Kenichi The Mightiest Disciple, and even there Kenichi was in the gardening club and there was a girl who liked him. When did the shonen audience go from " be cool, competent and accomplished like this guy" to "you can get a beautiful girlfriend by being a friendless loser, though you should fully expect her to exploit her strengths and take advantage of your weaknesses by bossing and bullying you." |
This isn't even a shonen series (atleast I dont think) so why compare it to shonen protagonists? The MC seems to be yet another self-insert thats typical of these kinds of series. |
You are correct, my apologies. I presumed it was shonen because like 80% of the school shows that have male protagonists, aren't ecchi and don't feature underage or underage looking girls (the wikipedia page for the seinen magazine that this show's manga adaptation of the light novel runs in has a cover image of a character from an ecchi title that is a "girl who is 16 but looks and acts 11") are shonen. The other 20% are like Kaguya Sama Love Is War and Insomniacs After School: a bit more sophisticated than "a cute girl likes me." Horimiya, despite its more mature themes, is still shonen. The closest seinen to this that I can think of is Kubo Won't Let Me Be Invisible, and even that was more than meets the eye.
I understand the self-insert thing with harems. Lots of the early harems were adaptations of gal games that rarely depicted the male main character at all and just showed everything from his POV. Also, with harems the girls are the real stars anyway because the young male fanbase wants to look at the pretty girls and laugh at them bickering at each other, and giving the guy too strong a personality would get in the way. You also want the protagonist to be a "good person" so you neither depict him as a casanova playboy who WANTS to date all those girls at once or someone "heartless" enough to just pick his favorite girl - especially if it is the most attractive, wealthy or amorous option - and tell the others to hit the road.
But in a non-harem romcom? Just seems like more otaku pandering wish fulfillment.
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ScruffyKiwi
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:21 pm |
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There are a lot of assumptions in this chat from people who have never read the source. It would be wrong to call the MC a self insert. He has his own issues that are related to his family that make him who he is. Same with the FMC. It’s actually a really well written romcom with realistic characters.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:46 pm |
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Sayumi Suzushiro and Ikumi Hasegawa feel like they're pretty much playing their usual typecasts but you don't really see Manaka Iwami in these kinds of roles often.
The Heroine definitely lives up to being "pretty" at any rate. Seems like while she and her friends are gabbing she singles out and says something to the MC.
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tywhoppity
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2025 10:58 am |
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| ScruffyKiwi wrote: | | There are a lot of assumptions in this chat from people who have never read the source. It would be wrong to call the MC a self insert. He has his own issues that are related to his family that make him who he is. Same with the FMC. It’s actually a really well written romcom with realistic characters. |
Thank you for saying what needed to be said. It centers a lot more on growing up and our lead couple growing together than zany romcom hijinks(very little of this). As of right now, probably in my top 3 most anticipated titles for '26.
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