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costmuffled
Joined: 28 Dec 2019
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Your talent puts on a major fundraising effort that pulled in half a million dollars for charity, and you claim to have only learned about it later? That's not "taking full responsibility" in my opinion. Will Ignacio or VShojo (defunct) be providing these funds at a later date? If so, it wasn't mentioned at all. I'm not clear at all what Ignacio means by taking responsibility when he isn't even coming clean with his explanation. I hate when people offer a supposed apology and then start to delude themselves or rationalize. What's so hard about: "I made bad decisions. I suck. I'll spend the rest of my life working to atone for my actions starting with [insert viable plans]."
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Riku157
Joined: 27 Jun 2022
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 10:04 pm |
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| costmuffled wrote: | | Will Ignacio or VShojo (defunct) be providing these funds at a later date? If so, it wasn't mentioned at all." |
Considering they weren't able to pay several people what was owed to them, which most likely represented smaller amounts of money, no one should even have to ask or believe that 500k will somehow appear to give to a charity.
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WANNFH
Joined: 13 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 10:13 pm |
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| costmuffled wrote: | | Your talent puts on a major fundraising effort that pulled in half a million dollars for charity, and you claim to have only learned about it later? |
His whole quote is literally big fat lie, and literally everyone rubbed his face to this - as he literally knew about the fundraising event and bragged about it in the social media at the time.
Also with this whole text, he literally signed his name to the fact that his company literally embezzled the money that not belonged to the company in the first place (as it was Ironmouse own money, which she entrusted for VShojo accounts to make transaction to the IDF, because she couldn't do it herself as it involve possibility of breaching her privacy), which can put him nicely behind the bars - no matter the actions he supposed to do with it after to recover it back.
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Meowtain Duwu
Joined: 11 May 2021
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:05 pm |
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Yeah there's no way this guy is gonna make it out of this unpunished. He's an awful liar and all he cares about is "me, me, me".
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Rogueywon
Joined: 01 May 2011
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:39 am |
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| Quote: | | Additionally, I acknowledge that some of the money spent by the company was raised in connection with talent activity, which I later learned was intended for a charitable initiative. |
Ooof... I don't know how the law around this works in the US, but in the UK, that sentence might have severe legal consequences. Depending on the specifics, raising money for a charitable purpose and then using the funds raised for a different purpose can constitute fraud. I'm not sure how far the "later learned" qualifier takes him, particularly if there's evidence he was aware of the fundraising initiative at the time.
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SinisterOracle
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 2:53 am |
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Justin Ignacio Never had any business being the CEO of VShojo (or any company for that matter). Lying, embezzlement, breach of contract with talent, and failure to pay wages. He’s in for a rude awakening once the lawsuits get filed.
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maximilianjenus
Joined: 29 Apr 2013
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:59 am |
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In one side, I find it weird that the doxxing of talents is not mentioned at all. Call to a blessing in disguise but also I am happy that items that is easy to ignore because of the way it happened , between employees of a few companies and not on Twitter or YouTube.
At first I thought " well, he is owning to the embezzlement/fraud to distract people from the doxxing " and yep, I still think the same.
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v1cious
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 8:26 am |
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| Meowtain Duwu wrote: | | Yeah there's no way this guy is gonna make it out of this unpunished. He's an awful liar and all he cares about is "me, me, me". |
My suspicion is he's counting on nothing happening. Mouse would have to doxx herself if this went into a courtroom.
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WANNFH
Joined: 13 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 8:49 am |
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| v1cious wrote: | | Meowtain Duwu wrote: | | Yeah there's no way this guy is gonna make it out of this unpunished. He's an awful liar and all he cares about is "me, me, me". |
My suspicion is he's counting on nothing happening. Mouse would have to doxx herself if this went into a courtroom. |
She maybe not if she decide that her privacy matters the most - but FTC and IRS will certainly do exactly that once they catch a whiff of a situation and absolutely will pull that into courtroom anyway, because it's by definition the actual legal matter of a charity fraud case - and Gunrun not even have a very good legal position to walk it out as he literally acknowledged the fact that his company embezzled the funds that were meant for a charity.
Dude literally having the smoothest brain if he thinks that there will be no legal issues after so brazenly talking about it, especially when pretty much everyone who participated in the charity event can put a civil case against him and the former management of the company.
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Akcoll99
Joined: 28 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 11:20 am |
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| Rogueywon wrote: | | Quote: | | Additionally, I acknowledge that some of the money spent by the company was raised in connection with talent activity, which I later learned was intended for a charitable initiative. |
Ooof... I don't know how the law around this works in the US, but in the UK, that sentence might have severe legal consequences. Depending on the specifics, raising money for a charitable purpose and then using the funds raised for a different purpose can constitute fraud. I'm not sure how far the "later learned" qualifier takes him, particularly if there's evidence he was aware of the fundraising initiative at the time. |
Very much the same here in the U.S. I think of several examples of politicians and others getting caught doing it.
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Firefly251
Joined: 14 Jul 2018
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:34 pm |
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| Rogueywon wrote: | | Quote: | | Additionally, I acknowledge that some of the money spent by the company was raised in connection with talent activity, which I later learned was intended for a charitable initiative. |
Ooof... I don't know how the law around this works in the US, but in the UK, that sentence might have severe legal consequences. Depending on the specifics, raising money for a charitable purpose and then using the funds raised for a different purpose can constitute fraud. I'm not sure how far the "later learned" qualifier takes him, particularly if there's evidence he was aware of the fundraising initiative at the time. |
It is actually worse than that.
the " which I later learned was intended for a charitable initiative." is a flat out lie. He was 100% fully aware it was charity as he responded to mouse after her subathon was over & to other famous streamers who commented about it.
thats why people on twitter made sure to add it in community note w/ the proof.
this guy is legit scum and hope former talents sue him til he is on the street as he deserves nothing less.
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OCDean
Joined: 26 Jul 2025
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:46 pm |
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| v1cious wrote: | | Meowtain Duwu wrote: | | Yeah there's no way this guy is gonna make it out of this unpunished. He's an awful liar and all he cares about is "me, me, me". |
My suspicion is he's counting on nothing happening. Mouse would have to doxx herself if this went into a courtroom. |
Ironmouse already mentioned an attorney and legal proceedings in her announcement.
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Glordit
Joined: 11 Sep 2020
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 3:03 pm |
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"I'm the leader of the company and I didn't know what everyone else was doing. You can't blame me for not knowing 500k went missing because I didn't know about!"
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crh1985
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 6:18 pm |
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I bet he takes all the money he stole and flees the country to not get jail time for stealing from charities.
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Cypher997
Joined: 08 Apr 2025
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 6:29 pm |
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| crh1985 wrote: | | I bet he takes all the money he stole and flees the country to not get jail time for stealing from charities. |
Wouldn't surprise me, after all, Carlos Ghosn pulled a similar 'exit strategy' from Japan after what he did with Nissan's finances during his tenure.
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