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vickeyv



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:32 am Reply with quote
Every where on the net people go around saying how over priced Anime DVDs are, like averageing around $20.
But i have noticed that its quite affordable especialy there are like more than one person in your house who watches anime. 'Cause we all blow like $10 per person for any of those crappy Hollywood movie tickets out there. And for a family of six that would be like $60 wow. But just get a Naruto DVD and enjoy something which will hold a billion times more appeal than Matrix 3 if you are an anime fan.

But i guess the reason is that people donot compare ANime DVDS to Hollywood tickets they compare it to fansubs. I think its time once and for all fansubs are gotten rid of. As in they are too damm wide spread. As in Hollywood movies widespread on the net but fansubs are like every where.

But really $20 is like peanuts when you compare it to like the amount of money we all shell out on those movie tickets.
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CGord



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:19 pm Reply with quote
My opinion:


  • $25 each is expensive
  • $20 each is just right
  • anything under $20 is a smokin' deal
I'm assuming a minimum of 4 eps per disc.
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Callik



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:14 pm Reply with quote
Unless your talking about Hellsing Ultimate which is like $20 for one episode.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:19 pm Reply with quote
It's hard for me to go to Fry's and look at the outrageous prices they have, and I can't stand buying from them for that and their people when it comes to movies aren't very helpful either. Game Stop is the only real place where I can find anime in the store cheap. Other than that it's deepdiscountdvd or rightstuf. If it's below 20 dollars per disc, there may be something there, ten or below, we're talking business.
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cheezisgoooood



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:34 pm Reply with quote
Well...anime IS pretty expensive. I mean, you can't say you forgot how much of a rip-off the Gantz DVD's were. $25 for two episodes? ADV, you can just go trip over an axe.

$30 each for 7 volumes in a 26 episode series is not cheap. Which is why I don't often buy anime DVD's, as much as I love it (though I also don't download it much either).
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selenta
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:49 pm Reply with quote
MSRP is indeed very expensive, but let's be real here. If you're paying MSRP, you're paying for the convenience of having it NOW, nothing else. If you're not attempting to pay for that convenience, you're being ripped off. You can find nearly any anime online for 1/3 off, or $20 as a base price. If you shop around, you can often get them for even less, with $16-18 range being reasonably common.

Compare that to a Hollywood movie, and you're paying roughly the same amount; though Hollywood movies certainly have the advantage in budget spent per screen minute. It does sound a little expensive, but think about some comparisons here: one anime DVD= 3 (or in my case, 2) fast food meals. Not too unreasonable to cut down on how often you eat out for most people. Or how about getting your oild changed on your car, can save $15-25 if you do that yourself... there's a million ways to save money in the world, as almost everything you do costs money. Anime is no exception unless you're stealing it. Everyone may not be able to afford collections like others here, but anyone who really wants to and has a job can find the money to collect anime... assuming they really wanted to do so in the first place. Laughing
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Deltakiral



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:57 pm Reply with quote
vickeyv wrote:
But really $20 is like peanuts when you compare it to like the amount of money we all shell out on those movie tickets.


I've slowed my movie going since the latest increase in price. My theater charges me $10 a ticket (I think $9.50 for a student) which normally is times two since I usually go with my gf....and then food and drinks (which I normally bring from 7-11) and your looking at 30 dollars. That why I seem to go to movies only when the film looks really amazing.

But also think in terms of the US market as far as TV series go. First I could (in theory) buy Naruto uncut box 1 for $ 33.26 which contains 3 disc. But at the same I could get Season 5 of 24 for $39.99 which contains 7 disc the entire season. See the difference? I mean do we buy one disc of 24 at a time? No, but Anime is niche market and it's expensive to license anime, and to get ADR and VA, and all that jazz. So you end up paying more for it.

cheezisgoooood wrote:
Well...anime IS pretty expensive. I mean, you can't say you forgot how much of a rip-off the Gantz DVD's were. $25 for two episodes? ADV, you can just go trip over an axe.


It wasn't $25 dollar per a disc, part of ADV plan was to release this series with less episodes with a cheaper cost per a disc to see if more fan would buy it because it's easier to buy a $15 disc then a $25 dollar disc. However in the long haul you end up paying more, I ended up buying the boxset for really cheap. But if you wanted to buy the singles look at how cheap the artbox,(plus first two episode is) also the originally MSRP was $25 dollar for the artbox and $17 or so for the individual disc.

So it it hard to buy anime? I said this in an earlier thread that I can't find now, but basically you have to be a shopper. You have to look for the deals online and wait for the big sales and load up then. I don't know how anyone could shop only at B&M it's just too expensive.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:03 pm Reply with quote
The upper limit I like to spend per disc is around $20, unless there's some kind of SE release that I feel is absolutely necessary. For the most part, I almost never buy anything in-person anymore. The only exception I'll make to this rule is when I'm looking for an OOP title that's probably only available in a dealers' room somewhere (I'm not big on used stuff). The lack of immediate gratification is, to me, justified by the usual 40% savings I find online. Believe it or not, in this case, being patient can actually save you money Smile.

Deltakiral wrote:
I've slowed my movie going since the latest increase in price. My theater charges me $10 a ticket . . . That why I seem to go to movies only when the film looks really amazing.

I with you on this one, Deltakiral. I'll reserve films that are worth premium to see-now status. Otherwise, I'm perfectly happy to wait for it to hit the local university theatre's cheap third-run showing for $4 back home, or $2.50(!) here. If you can play your cards right, one can shave dollars off almost anything.
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hentai4me



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:17 pm Reply with quote
Quick scan of exchange rates puts the US dollar at 51.XXX UK pence.

Regular price for an anime DVD (pretty much regardless of number of episodes or whatever) is £20. (£19.99) Exchange rate puts it at essentially £1 = $2. Therefore I am paying $40 dollars a disc for much less variety of anime, essentially no option of waiting to buy it later (as the shops will ditch the stock and not sell it off cheap, as they can re-claim from the government for some reason and get more money that way) and no access to anything but the most popular titles in collection boxes. For example I can't even get Evangelion in a collection box from any store where I live.

Now if I am lucky I can find something I want on Amazon.co.uk but then in comes shipping (which admittedly isn't THAT bad).

Whine all you want but at least you can buy anime on the high street...where I am I can get it only in one of two places, and they have a minimal selection, otherwise I have to get it from Amazon. yes I know other sites exist but I trust Amazon where I don't trust anyone else anymore (identity theft over the net is not good).
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10円



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:30 pm Reply with quote
hentai4me wrote:
Quick scan of exchange rates puts the US dollar at 51.XXX UK pence.

Regular price for an anime DVD (pretty much regardless of number of episodes or whatever) is £20. (£19.99) Exchange rate puts it at essentially £1 = $2. Therefore I am paying $40 dollars a disc…


How on earth did you come up with a claim like this? Unless you're being PAID in USD you really have no basis for making this ridiculous comparison.

hentai4me wrote:
Whine all you want but at least you can buy anime on the high street...where I am I can get it only in one of two places, and they have a minimal selection, otherwise I have to get it from Amazon. yes I know other sites exist but I trust Amazon where I don't trust anyone else anymore (identity theft over the net is not good).


As already stated in the anime spending thread, I recorded roughly USD $3,000 worth of anime purchases in 2006. 100% of these purchases were from websites other than Amazon.x. As someone who has been spending most of my free cash online since the late 1990's and never had to take more involved recourse than calling my bank once, I think you're really overreacting.
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hentai4me



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:49 pm Reply with quote
http://www.x-rates.com/calculator.html

As you can see £1 is the equivalent of 1.96109 USD therefore if I spend £20 that is the equivalent of 39.2219 USD. As the majority of the forum is American doesn't it make sense to convert the equivalent amount I spend into a currency that they are more familiar with?

In other words if you were to order a £20 anime DVD from the UK ignoring import and delivery etc it would cost an equivalent of $39.22.

Next, you laugh at identity theft? have you ever had someone take out a loan using details taken from an incorrectly encrypted internet transaction? I have, and that is not solved with a simple call to the bank. Especially when you don't know it has happened until your address is contacted for confirmation. True I had to pay nothing as it was quickly resolved but nonetheless it was a shock and not a risk I will take with any website except one I trust like Amazon.
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Asako



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:26 pm Reply with quote
There's a lot more to consider than just money conversion rates. There's things like average wage pay, minimum wages, costs of living, taxes, etc.

Conversion rates will hardly say much. I think it would be best to pull more information or stop the money conversion debate.
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:03 pm Reply with quote
I pretty much exclusively shop online as aside from a local Best Buy which has great pricing, it's the only way to get what I want. It's just awesome that usually it ends up being cheaper especially if you find a site with great sales, or one that buys in bulk and thus slashes it's prices significantly.

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My opinion:

$25 each is expensive
$20 each is just right
anything under $20 is a smokin' deal

I'm assuming a minimum of 4 eps per disc.


That would my scale as well.
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Kouji



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:14 pm Reply with quote
[quote="vickeyv"]But i guess the reason is that people donot compare ANime DVDS to Hollywood tickets they compare it to fansubs. I think its time once and for all fansubs are gotten rid of. As in they are too damm wide spread. As in Hollywood movies widespread on the net but fansubs are like every where./quote]Hurray, let's turn an actually pretty creative and unique topic about the prices of anime DVDs into the umpteenth debate about the oh so ebils of fansubs without even providing proof that anime DVD sales have suffered because of fansubs because heaven knows we haven't beaten that poor horse to death enough times already. Rolling Eyes And buying anime can be expensive depending on the series and the company releasing it, like if you're buying ridiculously long series through singles like Inuyasha and Bleach. But those shows are typically in the minority and a lot of older shows are being re-released in very cheap boxsets.

IMO, I'm not really pissed off about the price so much as the lack of DVD content. While we have to pay slightly more for the cost of dubbing etc we're also getting less in exchange than what American DVDs have. Most extra features on anime DVDs are rather dull and uninteresting. Textless credits are nice to have but they're so commonplace these days that it's almost more like a requirement than an extra. Most of the pics you see in the art galleries you can usually either see online for free or from buying the anime art books and most of the info you read about in the character profiles on anime DVDs you can also find out for free from just going to any anime fansite or from just watching the show. Also, most of the time the character profiles don't mark which ones contain spoilers and which ones don't so you can't even read the profiles until you finish watching the show, but by that point you pretty much already know all the info about the character that you need to know, anyway. I'm sure dub VA interviews and audio commentary tracks are nifty to have but they don't really mean much to sub fans. It pisses me off that I have to pay more for just the content while dub fans almost always seem to get more extras than sub fans do on anime DVDs. I'd like to at least see more interviews with the Japanese VAs and directors and more behind the scenes features. You know, stuff where you can actually learn something new about the production of the show rather than just useless rubbish that I'll only watch once. The least they could do is give us the Japanese commercials for the series as extras. Why do anime movies have the Japanese commercials as extras but not the series? Is it really that hard to have them included? This is why I've started buying boxsets instead of trying to collect the singles, especially ADV's thinpacks. You may be getting zero extras but at least you're paying a reasonable price for it most of the time as opposed to spending more for less and I don't mind the lack of extras because most of the time the extras on anime DVDs are either rubbish or dub-related anyway. So really, I think anime companies' biggest problem is that they need to acknowledge the fact that you know, there are actually sub fans out there who care about having some replay value to the DVDs.
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mistress_reebi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:32 pm Reply with quote
I remember back when anime was unheard of each VHS (held about 3-4 episodes in dub or subs and no bonus features) was around $30-$35 CAD. Now a DVD costs ten dollars less and comes with more stuff. Compared to ten years ago, anime is not expensive. In the UK, are the English versions to anime being sold distributed from America? Here in Canada, I don't think I've seen anime dubbed from the UK or Australia.
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