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Naruto_86



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:11 am Reply with quote
I do not know how the license system works.
I know that the Americans buy it to dub and sell them as DVDs but what i do not know is if they license a unfinished project do the Americans make up the episodes or buy the episodes from the Japanese and dub it.?
Hopefully someone can tell me.
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Kazuki-san



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:57 am Reply with quote
You mean if they were to license a series like Samurai Champloo that is licensed in the US but has not finished airing in Japan? If that's what your asking no they don't make up the episodes, they get them from the Japanese company.
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Big Towers



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:16 am Reply with quote
In essence, a "license" is simply permission from a Japanese Company for an American Company to Translate, Distribute, and Profit from works that they have, in one way or another, bought off the Japanese. A series can be bought before production, therefore the American Company actually paying for some aspect, if not all of the production, to be made. Other shows are bought after a series/movie has finished it's run. However, just because something has been bought, doesn't nessecerally mean they can make formal announcements to the public right there and then.

In essence, a show, movie, or straight-to-video Animation is a contract. Companies try to buy that contract (or as much as they can), depending on what kind of Budget they have to spend. Then, that company can create dubs, produce DVDs, negotiate TV Broadcasts, buy/produce merchandise, and promote it, either to how they want, or to how the Japanese company wants. No single show would be similar to another when it comes to licensing (for instance, the negotiations concerning the license of Midori no Hibi would be somewhat smaller and different to the licensing of say, Naruto), and getting any vry specific details (indepth process, finances etc) would be like drawing blood from a stone.

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Iron Chef



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:27 am Reply with quote
I was actually thinking about this the other day. Huh.

So for anyone who knows, does the license involve the "brand" (i.e. Naruto, Champloo) or just the animation? When a company purchases the license for the animation, do they have first right of refusal for the manga as well (and vice versa)?
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Kazuki-san



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:22 am Reply with quote
Iron Chef wrote:
I was actually thinking about this the other day. Huh.

So for anyone who knows, does the license involve the "brand" (i.e. Naruto, Champloo) or just the animation? When a company purchases the license for the animation, do they have first right of refusal for the manga as well (and vice versa)?


The license is usually for each item seperately (i.e. ADV could the license for a series, and then Viz could get the license for the manga)
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Iron Chef



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:50 pm Reply with quote
Does that usually go for soundtracks, too? Or are those too far tied into the anime?
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Emerje



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:31 pm Reply with quote
It really depends on the contract. Usually an anime, manga, and soundtrack license will be seperate because you're dealing with several different companies (the Japanese publisher, the Japanese broadcaster, and the Japanese recording studio). However, it's easier to market stuff based on an anime than a manga so the one holding the rights of an anime may also get the master license which means they're in charge of anything made that is related to the anime (posters, toys, clothe, etc.) with the exception of the manga and usually the soundtrack too. This is what companies like FUNimation, 4Kids, or Bandai do, when they get their titles they also take all of the options that come with it, nothing is done related to their titles without their say so.

Then there are contracts that plan ahead for the future. For example, Geneon has/had first right of refusal on all Tenchi anime. As soon as a new Tenchi title comes out, AIC asks them if they want it and Geneon says they either do or the don't. Up until recently they always said yes, but for whatever reason (maybe that contract has expired?) they now pass on these titles and FUNi has been snatching them up.

And of course not all contracts are all encompassing. ADV got the rights to the Evangelion tv series, Manga got the movies. Media Blasters got the Kenshin TV series, but ADV got the OAVs and movie. In contrast to that you've got FUNi who got all of Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT, all of the movies, all of the specials and the Master License allowing them to license out the rights to make toys, videogames and whatnot. Or even more so you've got Bandai who is a massive multimedia company. If it has a Gundam logo on it, it belongs to Bandai. And even better Bandai is going to do everything themselves shy of the manga (because I'm pretty sure they don't have a publishing branch, or atleast they don't in the US). They have the main company that will produce the anime, the interactive branch that will do all of the video games, and many, many, many merchandising branches (Banpresto, Popy, Megahouse, and several others) that will do everything else from gashapon to bathtowles.

I guess that's just a long way of saying, "it depends on the contract."

Emerje
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Swordfish_II



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:33 pm Reply with quote
Iron Chef wrote:
Does that usually go for soundtracks, too? Or are those too far tied into the anime?


They have to buy the music rights to use the music in the show, but I don't think that includes the actual soundtracks, at least most of the time.

For example, Synch-Point has the FLCL, ADV has Evangelion, and Manga has the EVA movies, but Geneon is releasing the sountracks to all of those.
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Sword of Whedon



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:10 pm Reply with quote
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They have to buy the music rights to use the music in the show, but I don't think that includes the actual soundtracks, at least most of the time.


The Japanese track already includes the rights to the song, most of the time. However sometimes it's seperate (Street Fighter II V, Kiki's Delivery Service) especially if you want to include it in the dub track
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