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NEWS: Prosecution Drops Charges in Canadian Manga Child Porn Case


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Bastille



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:37 am Reply with quote
Certainly not the best outcome but not the worst either. At least it didn't set Canadian law further into the stone age with any unnecessary precedents. Still waiting for someone to take up the several year legal battle required to challenge McLachlin's inclusion of lolicon as cp.

Glad to see he wasn't outright screwed over as a result of our backwards legal system and the new punishments aren't that strict.
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Darkmagick
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:41 am Reply with quote
Did they ever actually say what manga it was they found on his computer? Maybe I'm being overly cynical, but I keep expecting it to be something that it would be totally ridiculous to call "child porn", like One Piece or something...
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Toriko36



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:44 am Reply with quote
I've also wondered how exactly they got him to open his computer and allow them to go through it.

Was it on his desktop background? If it was stored in a file somewhere on his pc, I find it very hard to believe they took all that time to open one computer and go through it.

Why was he picked out of the customs line, searched and ultimately have his computer searched.

Is there somewhere we can read the whole case and all the why/how/who/what/where details?
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Kougeru



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:49 am Reply with quote
thats a lot of wasted money, could've been better spent on a lawsuit agaisnt real CP instead
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Bastille



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:54 am Reply with quote
Toriko36 wrote:
I've also wondered how exactly they got him to open his computer and allow them to go through it.

Was it on his desktop background? If it was stored in a file somewhere on his pc, I find it very hard to believe they took all that time to open one computer and go through it.

Why was he picked out of the customs line, searched and ultimately have his computer searched.

Is there somewhere we can read the whole case and all the why/how/who/what/where details?


Canadian Customs is, for any reason at all, allowed to look through any electronic devices you bring into the country and take a copy of its contents. You can take a look here to see the latest information on what the CBSA are capable of (based off the latest public information that was obtainable). Yes, there had to be something that tipped them off but, the moment you get pulled aside for a closer inspection, you lose a lot of rights.
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falloutgal



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:15 pm Reply with quote
A more detailed write-up here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37552
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Upon going through the files, the customs officer found an image that was described in the court papers as "a collage of 48 discrete animated images which portray 'persons' involved in sexual acts." This image is actually a moe-style parody of a classical Japanese woodblock print titled Shijūhatte, which roughly translates to "the 48 positions," and is in turn based on a print of the 48 wrestling positions.
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dewlwieldthedarpachief



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:24 pm Reply with quote
I am disgusted at this caricature of criminal justice and ashamed to be represented by individuals that champion this inane waste of resources.
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Nemo_N



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:26 pm Reply with quote
I just made a donation~.

Kougeru wrote:
thats a lot of wasted money, could've been better spent on a lawsuit agaisnt real CP instead

Sadly, there are many creeps who think that wasting money prosecuting people over naughty naughty drawings is a good use of resources, as good as helping real children.
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Hawkwing



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:36 pm Reply with quote
Glad to see that he isn't actually facing any criminal charges.

To say that "Naked fiction loli characters is CP!" is just as bad as "Video games makes people violent!". Rolling Eyes

Whats next, eating apples will make you more evil?

Kougeru wrote:
thats a lot of wasted money, could've been better spent on a lawsuit agaisnt real CP instead


Indeed
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Teriyaki Terrier



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:40 pm Reply with quote
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software engineer


For a person who likely is quite smart (given that he is a engineer) he sure has done something quite dumb.

Wow, that is just crazy. But even crazier, is that chargers were dropped.

Just because manga characters aren't real, given that they are depicted as real people, it's still one in the same. This is especially the case if the characters look like kids or are in fact kids in the manga.

Out of every profession, someone who does software engineering should that pretty well.

What a world we live in.
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Saffire
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:53 pm Reply with quote
Teriyaki Terrier wrote:
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software engineer


For a person who likely is quite smart (given that he is a engineer) he sure has done something quite dumb.
Smart people have a tendency to lack common sense. I'm a little more surprised that his hard drive wasn't encrypted, but I guess it's not really common to do so yet (which I suspect will change over the next few years).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:02 pm Reply with quote
From the handbook:
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You are more likely to be chosen to have your devices searched if you:

-Are importing something the CBSA deems to be suspicious. This could include anime and manga, which the CBSA is highly suspicious of. The CBSA has reminded its officers that “most [anime and manga is] not
child porn”.

-Are a single man traveling alone.
After reading that handbook its pretty chilling. They can stop anyone at anytime and go thru all your electronic devices. Complain too much? Then its suspicious and you are liable to get your stuff confiscated for a more detailed search. Are you a single man traveling alone with pics of your kids at the beach, then you are probably a pedophile and need to be locked up. It even mentions that there are rumors of searching for illegal copies of media. So, I guess if you have rips of your favorite anime on your laptop or phone you may get scrutinized.
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Reynard82



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:15 pm Reply with quote
God Bless the CBLDF.
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Cecilthedarkknight_234



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:26 pm Reply with quote
claps hands.. well at least some people are actually thinking for once.
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V1046-R



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:52 pm Reply with quote
One-Eye wrote:
From the handbook:
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You are more likely to be chosen to have your devices searched if you:

-Are importing something the CBSA deems to be suspicious. This could include anime and manga, which the CBSA is highly suspicious of. The CBSA has reminded its officers that “most [anime and manga is] not
child porn”.

-Are a single man traveling alone.
After reading that handbook its pretty chilling. They can stop anyone at anytime and go thru all your electronic devices. Complain too much? Then its suspicious and you are liable to get your stuff confiscated for a more detailed search. Are you a single man traveling alone with pics of your kids at the beach, then you are probably a pedophile and need to be locked up. It even mentions that there are rumors of searching for illegal copies of media. So, I guess if you have rips of your favorite anime on your laptop or phone you may get scrutinized.


Common sense would tell me when travelling to another country, don't take chances & don't bring anything that makes you stand out. Including images on electronic devices. You are in someone else's land, and all rules you know about from where you live are out the window. Squeaky clean is my rule of thumb when traveling across borders.
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